Great analysis. What was your take on the very last line?

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Watched Chicago yesterday. Realized afterwards it won the 2003 Oscar for best picture (among other wins). Say what?

I've disagreed with Oscar winner choices many times before, but this one has to be the most puzzling one yet to me. I don't think the movie is just overrated, I think it's unwatchable garbage. 2/10. The only reason it doesn't get a 1 is that I've seen some pretty horrifically ****ty B-movies over the years.

One of the ****tiest big budget movies I've ever seen. I fast forwarded several times because the musical numbers and generally useless acting, plot and cinematography made me gag.

They could have given that Oscar to Catch Me If You Can or something. At least that wouldn't have made it seem like the voters are a bunch of meth addled chimpanzees.

A similar, better movie: Nine. Not great, but quite watchable, which makes it a huge improvement over Chicago. EDIT: Holy crap! It's the same damn director! Rob Marshall almost learned how to make a movie in the 7 years between Chicago and Nine. But he really just went from being useless to being somewhat halfway competent.

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Also watched Beetlejuice. Gotta say I don't understand quite why people love this movie so much. At least with Edward Scissorhands, I can see how it's charming and has an engaging story - even if I didn't really like the movie that much. Beetlejuice had some fun moments and memorable scenes, but I really think it falls apart gradually as it goes along, and I found it quite disappointing how little it managed to do with it's elaborate ideas about the afterlife. I think Burton has always been hit and miss. This belongs to the worse half of his filmography, even if it at least had its moments. But I don't think Burton has made a movie that was complete garbage yet, except maybe Dark Shadows.

A similar, better movie: The Adams Family. Fun, cohesive and way more atmospheric and way less ugly and garish. Not to mention most characters in that movie are charming and fun, rather than annoying.

Brah, if you're confused why people like the things they do then just know that in the context of movies "falls apart gradually" has no meaning to 99% of the human race.

I am the 1%

Saw “A Star is Born”. Everyone here should check it out. I really think Bradley Cooper has a reasonable chance at winning both Best Director and Best Actor, which has never happened before

Lady Gaga is excellent as well, and for the first time ever I actually found her really attractive in the movie so that’s a plus. She looks nice with long brown hair

Sam Elliott kills it as usual. The man gets little screen time but dominates every scene he gets. He could get a best supporting actor nom.

The hype is real on that one guys, and the music isn’t terrible either. Highly recommended, and my 2nd favorite film of 2018 after Hereditary.

Cooper can actually sing pretty well too:

I always thought Lady Gaga was attractive under the silly costumes. Just check out the Perfect Illusion music video and it's obvious.



Anyway, I don't know how many know the Jim Henson movie Dark Crystal. I just finished watching it and it was disappointing. Even sort of crap. Which is a letdown for someone who really loves Labyrinth.
Definitely the most pointless and generic fantasty nonsense plot in all of movie history, plus a completely unappealing blank slate of a main character. Fantasy is the most cursed movie genre of all time. Something 99 out of a 100 movies in the genre are turds.

I like Labyrinth, Snow White and the Huntsman (the sequel was crap, sadly), Maleficent, Legend and... maybe one or two more?

Next up on my shelf:

Conan the Barbarian
Conan the Destroyer
Red Sonja

Expecting at least 1 of those to be crap. I know the first Conan movie is cool, so I'm looking forward to rewatching that one.

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Now that's a well made dragon. Who needs CGI when you've got slimy rubber materials?

Haven't seen it since I was a kid and now I kinda want to see if it was actually any good. Apparently Slayer took their name from the movie fyi.

I know I've actually watched the movie years ago, but I can't remember much. I sadly don't think I was impressed. Maybe it's worth watching one more time, I don't know. Could be.

Just watched it the other day. It's actually somehow aged just fine.

Bro, I literally have this **** on my bedroom wall:

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lol now I'm afraid to say if I think it sucks (don't know yet since it's still on my shelf).

Also, Birgitte Nielsen is Danish, so that's a fact. Not necessarily an interesting one. Now you can think of me everytime you stare at her nicely painted side boob at night.

Holy **** what a good movie.

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Hey, if I can handle you ****ting on Beetlejuice, I can handle anything.

where's the oscar tbh

That new Halloween is pretty good. I enjoyed it.

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Paul Dano was believable. John Cusack... not so much.

6/10

Anyone seen that new Jonah Hill movie "Mid-90's" or whatever? I'm curious how it is. I have a lot of faith in A24 movies but the trailers haven't really knocked my socks off.

I watched the Rob Zombie remake last night. I liked it a lot.

I think it would have benefitted Michael's character to have him spare Danny Trejo's life, making it that he really only wanted to hurt bad people, and Danny was good to him. Though, being a security guard, Trejo did keep Michael from his little sister, so I can see why they had him kill Trejo.

Same with Michael's counselor dude.

That would have been awful. He's Michael Myers not Frankenstein.

It would have allowed more people to empathize with him. His goal was to protect and make a better life for his defenseless baby sister. He obviously went about it the wrong way b/c he's f*cked in the head, but it would have made him more relatable to the audience.

Making him a dime-a-dozen psycho adds nothing to the genre.

Making him Frankenstein while still being Michael Myers would have been the most cloying PG-13 bull****.

You want an emotionless psycho

I want complexity

Does it really make sense to call the OG unstoppable force of evil a dime-a-dozen?

I would generally agree for more complexity but I don't think that adding complexity in that manner would suit Myers at all.

I think you have **** taste in complexity.

Most people call me pretentious but aight then.

Wasn't talking to you, bitch.

When that OG unstoppable force of evil has been forced down our throats and done to death for decades, then yes.

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well that was weak

See, I like the Rob Zombie movies as their own thing, but the whole giving Micheal Myers a back story completely deviates from the original vision of "The Shape" that made Micheal what he is. Making him a sympathetic character ruins the image of the unstoppable evil. Plus, they already did that with Jason.

That's why I like the new movie. Where the complexity doesn't come from a cheap and uninformed representation of abuse to build empathy for a mass murderer. It focuses on a more thoughtfully done portrayal of PTSD in Laurie. Micheal isn't supposed to be a complex character, he's meant to be a manifestation of evil. That's why giving him an explanation or backstory in any form ruins it.

Watched the original "Death Wish" with Charles Bronson last night. Getting ready to watch "Death Wish 2."

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"Sorry to bother you" . I actually did not like this film at all. Essentially about a black telephone salesman who fakes a white voice in order to get people to buy what he is selling. It got really good reviews but to me, it just seemed like the type of film you say is really good in order to agree with the underlying message but, in the end, don't really like it...but you shouldn't say that..so..it was good.

People should definitely separate the messages of a movie from the movie as a work of art/entertainment.

I do. And people give me death stares every time I say Schindler's List sucks. Just because I think Spielberg is an incredibly boring and banal film maker, it doesn't mean I'm a Nazi sympathizer, ok?

Just say that you don't like it because Schindler was such a womanizer and disgraced his wife completly. Then add a "metoo" after. Then people will aree with you because... Metoo!

Or you could start the debate with his wife's biography which she states that he kept the factory open only because he was afraid of being sent to the Russian front..

I like the way you're thinking.

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I last watched NIGHTHAWKS (1981) on VHS :)

This looks like it might be decent:


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Watched Red Sonja.

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It's an 80's fantasy film, so it's got all the dumb looking costumes and bad acting you'll have learned to expect. It's got some annoying characters, a main villain with flimsy motivations and one particular side kick I'd like to throw into a bottom less well.

Despite all that, it was surprisingly likeable. It's just basically a fairly charming movie with good pacing and a very straight-to-the-point final confrontation and ending that feels very entertaining despite the parade of clichés. The sword fights between Red Sonja and the villain are fun and the villain dies in what could have been an iconic scene if the movie was overall less cheesy.

You gotta know what you're getting into with this movie, but it was fun for what is was.

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