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Old 07-08-2011, 07:29 AM   #3591 (permalink)
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It's not bull. I don't know much about the PSN one, but I know with EA's, it's the game companies trying to get money from games that they should rightfully make. I have no problem with it.

They make NO money off of used game sales.
Also, you could rent, because places like Blockbuster do not take the codes out of the boxes.
It sure is bull, seems every month or so the video game industry finds a new way to nickel and dime it's customers (looking at $15 cod map packs here). I'm amazed PSN is still free.

And used game sales has existed for a LONG time, so it's not like some new fad. Why's it a big deal all the sudden now? This won't stop me buying used games (well it wouldn't, if I had a PS3) because most of the time I couldn't care less about multiplayer.
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Old 07-08-2011, 07:40 AM   #3592 (permalink)
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And used game sales has existed for a LONG time, so it's not like some new fad. Why's it a big deal all the sudden now? This won't stop me buying used games (well it wouldn't, if I had a PS3) because most of the time I couldn't care less about multiplayer.
It's a big deal nowadays because of the budget size that games are using that trumps some of the budgets that movies get. that's the big difference.

Honestly, I'd like to see them trim back their budgets a bit and create more games instead of throwing so much money into fewer games.
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Old 07-08-2011, 07:51 AM   #3593 (permalink)
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if by buying used games, you don't have a net connection for it, i'd rather buy pirated
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Old 07-08-2011, 11:19 PM   #3594 (permalink)
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It sure is bull, seems every month or so the video game industry finds a new way to nickel and dime it's customers (looking at $15 cod map packs here). I'm amazed PSN is still free.

And used game sales has existed for a LONG time, so it's not like some new fad. Why's it a big deal all the sudden now? This won't stop me buying used games (well it wouldn't, if I had a PS3) because most of the time I couldn't care less about multiplayer.
I like how you talk of the "game industry" being one sole entity out to get us. Just because activision milks people doesn't mean it's the norm, example being valve who now released team fortress 2 for free.

Game sales are also much bigger then they were 10-15 years ago, and thanks to the internet, are really the only disc-based media still selling. Movies and music sure aren't selling hard copies.

Game developers work ridiculously hard hours, I'm not going to assume that their motivation for wanting to sell their game is inherently mischievous.
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Old 07-10-2011, 02:57 PM   #3595 (permalink)
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Bought Portal 2 and BFBC2+DLC in the steam summer sale. 25 and 10 dollars respectively. I've got some gaming to do
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Old 07-11-2011, 05:36 AM   #3596 (permalink)
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just got:-

Midway Arcade Treasures 3 - just for completion sakes, as i got the other two, ragtag of PSOne-ish racing games except for the retro classic S.T.U.N. Runner and the sequel to the race simulation Hard Drivin', Race Drivin', which is hellishly fun to play on manual transmission

Panzer Front, Ausf. B - strategy/tank simulation, which I think I ought to get the manual to
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It's pretty forgettable as a horror game but it's at least competent as a tactical shooter.
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:56 AM   #3598 (permalink)
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Making games is so unbelievably expensive these days many smaller studio's end up having to close if they're game doesn't sell well.

I can totally understand why developers are trying to fight used game sales, especially with Gamestop being so predominant.

I think they're best bet however is to adopt a steam model or downloadable distribution, which is happening more on PSN, but unfortunately because of Microsofts limitations, isn't as easy on XBL.

I think it will be the primary distribution method come next gen/
sorry but this is a load of crap on the same line as "p2p killed the music industry".

there's been a significant resurgence of independent developers releasing on the cheap for the last few years now. look at the amount of gaming apps available for any phone. HUGE market and it's starting to cross over into the pc market again, and with digital distribution being built into modern consoles the indie devs are actually provided with more opportunities than they've ever had. you won't necessarily get a Ferrari out of the deal but you can make a living.

the groups fighting the used game sales at Gamestop etc. are the established publishers, they're also the ones who control most of the money and the overall direction of any project that needs venture capital to get moving. it's the same logic that's running most large entertainment studios music, movies, tv, whatever into the ground - don't take a real risk / rehash rehash rehash / new paintjob = new product - aka Capcom. really though, thanks for the 153rd Street Fighter game in a row $60 brand new... really.

the idea that a used sale is a loss for the developer is a fallacy. the consumer who buys used does so because they are not willing to pay new prices; it's either used or pirated - neither provides back to the developer, and only one helps the business that caters to the particular interest.

also The Witcher2 is $35 at gamestop this week picked it up tonight
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