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ProggyMan 09-05-2009 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 730399)
I've seen enough American war movies to last me a life time of comic relief. Hence my comment 'The truth has been stretched in the name of patriotism'.
As for Inglourious Basterds. I won't be going to see it because it looks shit!

It's not a typical American War movie. There is no pretense of historical truth. Since you're not seeing it Hitler ****ing dies in a burning movie theater, killed by a French Jewish refugee who took over her 'aunts' movie theater. The Americans are all stupid hillbillies and the British are all ****ing James Bonds. The main actors are all foreign, the last thing this movie is is patriotic.
P.S.: Sorry for the swearing I'm not actually angry...

Sparky 09-05-2009 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 730413)
It's not a typical American War movie. There is no pretense of historical truth. Since you're not seeing it Hitler ****ing dies in a burning movie theater, killed by a French Jewish refugee who took over her 'aunts' movie theater. The Americans are all stupid hillbillies and the British are all ****ing James Bonds. The main actors are all foreign, the last thing this movie is is patriotic.
P.S.: Sorry for the swearing I'm not actually angry...

Except for Brad Pitt?

I do agree with you however, i doubt anybody is being brainwashed by this film. It's like calling "Finding Nemo" a nature documentary.

However, the flash and tricks Tarantino pulls out of his bag for this film fall flat for the most part for me. I especially hated the SPOILERS ending with the machine gun slaughter. Just made me uncomfortable, and not in any meaningful kind-off way, just in a "what the **** is going on" kinda way.

boo boo 09-06-2009 12:56 AM

Tarantino pretty much said that he dosen't even consider this a war movie.

It's a spagetti western, just with WWII iconography.

It's also an homage to old Italian exploitation war movies of the 60s and 70s, sometimes called "macaroni combat".

Tarantino basically makes exploitation movies for the modern age, so complaining that he's no Jean-Luc Godard is like complaining that Frank Miller is no William Shakespeare. It's a completely different kind of medium. So people need to stop rating everything like it should be up to the standards of classical literature. :laughing:

sleepy jack 09-06-2009 01:02 AM

is anyone really getting that pissed off about the movie's historical inaccuracy or tarantino's style? i haven't seen much complaints in here...aside from david but he's right. considering america needs to get over itself and it
sss post-cold war propaganda and give some wwii credit to the russians. nationalsim is boring.,

boo boo 09-06-2009 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 730754)
is anyone really getting that pissed off about the movie's historical inaccuracy or tarantino's style? i haven't seen much complaints in here...aside from david but he's right. considering america needs to get over itself and it
sss post-cold war propaganda and give some wwii credit to the russians. nationalsim is boring.,

I don't see how this film is any more nationalist than your typical WWII movie.

At least it's not bullsh*tting about it, simplyfing a complex issue? Geez, if anyone has ever seen an exploitation film or read a comic book they would kknow that Tarantino is not going for high art here. :laughing:

Seriously I don't see this movie trying to bring about any serious message or anything, it's about "killin' natzees", and uh, we don't like natzees so that kinda makes sense.

Seriously, some critics just like to make it their job to overanalize the holy f*ck out of everything.

Besides, this movie seems more like a parody than anything.

crash_override 09-06-2009 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 730759)
I don't see how this film is any more nationalist than your typical WWII movie.

At least it's not bullsh*tting about it, simplyfing a complex issue? Geez, if anyone has ever seen an exploitation film or read a comic book they would kknow that Tarantino is not going for high art here. :laughing:

Seriously I don't see this movie trying to bring about any serious message or anything, it's about "killin' natzees", and uh, we don't like natzees so that kinda makes sense.

Seriously, some critics just like to make it their job to overanalize the holy f*ck out of everything.

Besides, this movie seems more like a parody than anything.

Did you finally see the movie booboo?

sleepy jack 09-06-2009 01:27 AM

i wasnt calling the film nationalist i was calling the bigoted view american's have of wwii - a bigoted view that probably explains a lot of thepopularity of this film nationalist. i for one find the idea that american's are equally capable of commiting atrocities against the naizs a disturbingly ironic but pointed concept...the fact some of the absterds were jewish was a bit too much though.no doubt tarantino meant it to be some sort of weird justified revenge. the movie bored me. the only thing i liked was when marcel and shosanna had plannned to burn the nazis in the theater the rest bored/kind of horried me and left me thinking but not intheway a movie makes you think.

boo boo 09-06-2009 02:03 AM

I think it's more bitterness than bigotry.

I mean, Hollywood has a lot of Jews. A lot of people behind these war movies are Jews, so do they villify the Nazis? Absolutely. Do I blame them? No.

Some storytellers believe in the concept of good vs evil, and it's stupid to call people bigoted just because they think Nazis were evil.

OMFG REALLY??? How could they say such a thing?

sleepy jack 09-06-2009 02:14 AM

what the fuck? that's not what i was saying atall. i was saying the american view of world war two is bigoted, because they completely ignored things like the eastern front and try and pretend the biggest american contribution wasn't the fact that the US stopped selling weaponry to the nazis. that's what's bigoted, the way americans are portrayed not the fact the nazis are always portrayed as the bad guys. stop twistng my words.

secondly, i was saying i find the irony disturbing that they assembled a brigade - that was partially jewish - to torture nazis. i understand it was revenge but i believe in the higher ground. i understand it's a movie but i had a moral problem with that. it's the same reason i can't read some of alan moore's shit. i find certain things too repulsive to be enteraining.

boo boo 09-06-2009 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 730765)
what the fuck? that's not what i was saying atall. i was saying the american view of world war two is bigoted, because they completely ignored things like the eastern front and try and pretend the biggest american contribution wasn't the fact that the US stopped selling weaponry to the nazis. that's what's bigoted, the way americans are portrayed not the fact the nazis are always portrayed as the bad guys. stop twistng my words.

secondly, i was saying i find the irony disturbing that they assembled a brigade - that was partially jewish - to torture nazis. i understand it was revenge but i believe in the higher ground. i understand it's a movie but i had a moral problem with that. it's the same reason i can't read some of alan moore's shit. i find certain things too repulsive to be enteraining.

Well sorry if I misread you but to be fair you are writing like an inebriated 12 year old right now.


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