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adidasss 09-11-2009 04:15 PM

Saw it a few days ago. Probably my least favorite Tarantino thus far. I realize some part of my disappointment has something to do with the immense expectations I had for the film (Tarantino is one of my favorite directors). My biggest problem was the casting of Brad Pitt. I really dislike that guy, but can tolerate him in most films as long as he's not trying to be amusing (the man just doesn't have an ounce of comedic talent). Naturally, his performance as the "comic relief" here was as grating as fingernails on a chalkboard.

Other than that, the whole Bastards subplot fell completely flat (the prime example of its complete failure was the introduction of the Jew Bear which was completely anticlimactic) which seriously affected the flow of the film for me. But I loved the first chapter and thought the Nazi "Jew hunter" was a great character. All the scenes he was in had great tension. Oh and I loved the scene in the projection booth near the end (with the music and all that) and the scenes after that with the projection of her laughter on the fire and smoke. Pretty amazing.

But, for some reason I didn't really think this was a particularly "Tarantino" film. Maybe his characteristic dialog doesn't really translate into other languages?

So yeah, kind of a let down, but still enjoyable. It probably would have been a much better film if it wasn't for Brad Pitt. God, I hate that guy..>:[

Sparky 09-12-2009 08:46 AM

I like Brad Pit. I thought he was pretty funny in "The Mexican".

adidasss 09-12-2009 12:09 PM

Someone actually sat through The Mexican? http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...ower/shock.jpg

Inuzuka Skysword 09-12-2009 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 730975)
You're right, I just didn't care for the movie. I found the way the Basterds treated the Nazis to be darkly ironic but in a way that I just couldn't enjoy. It's the same reason I have trouble with the League of Extraordinary Gentleman - Hawley Griffin is a rapist for christ sakes. It's hard for me to be entertained by things that I find morally repulsive. That was the problem I have with the Basterds. I understand they were supposed to be comedic but most of the time I was just feeling a little bit disgusted by them.

I do agree with you a bit. While justice is one of things I love most, I don't like seeing a bunch of sadists have fun on screen. That is really what it was. I had to turn my head a few times because it was so morally repulsive. Sometimes it was funny because they blew it way out of proportion. However, when he pressed down on that one chick's leg that had the bullet in it I felt like turning the movie off.

I think you complaints about it being nationalistic are just stupid though. One, I am pretty sure it was not at all trying to be nationalistic and if anything it was trying to portray the dark side of Americans. Secondly, do you really feel like passing up an enjoyable film for a history documentary? I know the Russians did a hell of a lot in the war. Personally, I also think Stalingrad was one of the more heroic moments in the war. Do we need movies to be historically accurate though? I mean, The Green Berets was ****ing ridiculous. Still, don't think that you should criticize it for being nationalistic, just for being incredibly stupid.

sleepy jack 09-12-2009 02:08 PM

I wasn't criticizing this film for being nationalistic - that was more an unrelated jab at World War II films in general and the American hubris and all that. I'm aware this is a Tarantino film. My only problems with it, and the reason I didn't enjoy it, was for the reasons you listed.

Sparky 09-12-2009 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 734536)
Someone actually sat through The Mexican? http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...ower/shock.jpg

your too sour:mad:

Janszoon 09-14-2009 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 734262)
But, for some reason I didn't really think this was a particularly "Tarantino" film. Maybe his characteristic dialog doesn't really translate into other languages?

That wouldn't surprise me. For example I got a lot of laughs out of Brad Pitt's over-the-top Tennessee hillbilly schtick and Eli Roth's over-the-top Boston Red Sox fan schtick, but I think that stuff is kind of culturally specific and might not translate well.

Also, I thought the part when Brad Pitt was trying to speak Italian was one of the funniest parts of the movie.

TyrantSong 09-14-2009 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 735556)
Also, I thought the part when Brad Pitt was trying to speak Italian was one of the funniest parts of the movie.

Seconded.


I loved the movie, it was one of the few times I've been to the movies and have laughed louder than just a snicker.

adidasss 09-14-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 735556)
That wouldn't surprise me. For example I got a lot of laughs out of Brad Pitt's over-the-top Tennessee hillbilly schtick and Eli Roth's over-the-top Boston Red Sox fan schtick, but I think that stuff is kind of culturally specific and might not translate well.

Also, I thought the part when Brad Pitt was trying to speak Italian was one of the funniest parts of the movie.

Oh, I think you misunderstood me (or I'm misunderstanding you now). What I meant was that seeing as how the majority of the film was in a language other than English I didn't really pick up any of his retro-American, cool witticisms...if that makes sense...I can't think of a specific example from his other films but I always felt his films feature dialog and expressions you couldn't really find in other American films.

Oh and yes, that part with the Italian was very funny. I was actually curious if people who aren't that familiar with Italian would pick up on it...I guess it's kinda obvious...(:

Janszoon 09-14-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 735654)
Oh, I think you misunderstood me (or I'm misunderstanding you now). What I meant was that seeing as how the majority of the film was in a language other than English I didn't really pick up any of his retro-American, cool witticisms...if that makes sense...I can't think of a specific example from his other films but I always felt his films feature dialog and expressions you couldn't really find in other American films.

Ah, I see what you mean and you do have a point about that. One example from Kill Bill that always cracks me up is the tense conversation in the kitchen near the beginning of the movie when Uma Thurman says to Vivica A. Fox with a completely straight face, "Even? Even Steven?" I guess there wasn't much of that kind of thing in Inglorious Basterds. However, I thought some of the humorous ways the subtitles were used kind of picked up the slack for me.

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 735654)
Oh and yes, that part with the Italian was very funny. I was actually curious if people who aren't that familiar with Italian would pick up on it...I guess it's kinda obvious...(:

Yeah, I think it would be hard to miss. :)


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