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right-track 09-06-2009 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 730768)
Well sorry if I misread you but to be fair you are writing like an inebriated 12 year old right now.
Come off it boo boo.
If you don't agree with a persons opinion the last thing you should do is get personal.

boo boo 09-06-2009 02:27 AM
Ok fair enough.

ProggyMan 09-06-2009 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 730762)
i wasnt calling the film nationalist i was calling the bigoted view american's have of wwii - a bigoted view that probably explains a lot of thepopularity of this film nationalist. i for one find the idea that american's are equally capable of commiting atrocities against the naizs a disturbingly ironic but pointed concept...the fact some of the absterds were jewish was a bit too much though.no doubt tarantino meant it to be some sort of weird justified revenge. the movie bored me. the only thing i liked was when marcel and shosanna had plannned to burn the nazis in the theater the rest bored/kind of horried me and left me thinking but not intheway a movie makes you think.
It seems like you just didn't like the film. The Basterds were comic relief. A joke. Not much more than a plot device. I don't see how showing one squad of commandos on the western front is somehow a bigoted American view of WWII. You're right about the general Amero-centricness of WWII movies and the false perception that America had anything to do with the victory in Europe (Hell, the British didn't), but this movie isn't even about the Americans, they're just a colorful cast of side characters.

boo boo 09-06-2009 10:17 AM
There are just some forms of media that one shouldn't demand political correctness from.

Like comic books, video games, heavy metal, porn, and Quentin Tarantino movies. :laughing:

WolfAtTheDoor 09-06-2009 11:04 AM
I watched this movie last night, all around I thought it was pretty fantastic. It exceeded my expectations on all levels. The final portion of the film was brutal/hilarious/exhilarating and there were tremendous performances all round (Pitt's performance has been somewhat slated for being too one-dimensional, but I personally thought he stole the show). My main qualms with Inglourious Basterds would be the lengthy card game scene, which could have been a LOT shorter and seemed to drag on needlessly. The dialogue was good, though not upto Tarantino's earlier standard of writing.

All in all, a little bit lengthy, but WELL worth the watch.

sleepy jack 09-06-2009 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 730867)
It seems like you just didn't like the film. The Basterds were comic relief. A joke. Not much more than a plot device. I don't see how showing one squad of commandos on the western front is somehow a bigoted American view of WWII. You're right about the general Amero-centricness of WWII movies and the false perception that America had anything to do with the victory in Europe (Hell, the British didn't), but this movie isn't even about the Americans, they're just a colorful cast of side characters.
My rant more had nothing to do with the movie, even though it made almost no sense sorry.

You're right, I just didn't care for the movie. I found the way the Basterds treated the Nazis to be darkly ironic but in a way that I just couldn't enjoy. It's the same reason I have trouble with the League of Extraordinary Gentleman - Hawley Griffin is a rapist for christ sakes. It's hard for me to be entertained by things that I find morally repulsive. That was the problem I have with the Basterds. I understand they were supposed to be comedic but most of the time I was just feeling a little bit disgusted by them.

Terrible Lizard 09-06-2009 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 730975)
My rant more had nothing to do with the movie, even though it made almost no sense sorry.

You're right, I just didn't care for the movie. I found the way the Basterds treated the Nazis to be darkly ironic but in a way that I just couldn't enjoy. It's the same reason I have trouble with the League of Extraordinary Gentleman - Hawley Griffin is a rapist for christ sakes. It's hard for me to be entertained by things that I find morally repulsive. That was the problem I have with the Basterds. I understand they were supposed to be comedic but most of the time I was just feeling a little bit disgusted by them.
I'd like to see how you'd react to Lord Horror.

Janszoon 09-10-2009 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 730975)
My rant more had nothing to do with the movie, even though it made almost no sense sorry.

You're right, I just didn't care for the movie. I found the way the Basterds treated the Nazis to be darkly ironic but in a way that I just couldn't enjoy. It's the same reason I have trouble with the League of Extraordinary Gentleman - Hawley Griffin is a rapist for christ sakes. It's hard for me to be entertained by things that I find morally repulsive. That was the problem I have with the Basterds. I understand they were supposed to be comedic but most of the time I was just feeling a little bit disgusted by them.
The thing about Inglorious Basterds is it's not really a movie about World War II and shouldn't be related to ideas about real people in real wars. Like pretty much everything else Tarantino has done, it's a movie about movies. In this case it's a movie largely about WWII movies just like Kill Bill was a movie largely about kung fu movies. Things that are funny in these films are funny because of how they relate to the language of cinema not how they relate to real life.

boo boo 09-11-2009 03:16 PM
Yeah don't compare this to League of Extraordinary Gentleman, that movie was horrible.

sleepy jack 09-11-2009 03:22 PM
I wasn't even talking about the movie nor I was I even making a direct comparison between the graphic novel and Tarantino's movie.


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