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View Poll Results: Best Gaga Album...?!?!
The Fame 5 41.67%
The Fame Monster 3 25.00%
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Old 05-06-2011, 02:28 AM   #2181 (permalink)
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Her latest video's out! Wahoooo it's sexy.
why not post it? SELFISH!


If anyone wants to see the video it's on this site.

Vidéo Lady Gaga - Judas (Official Video Music 2011) de official59 (Musique - official59) - wat.tv

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anyone else think this judas song sounds a lot like bad romance?

I didn't notice it until you said that.

The whole Judah ah ah aha....is similar to the rah rah rah rah that she did in bad romance.
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Old 05-06-2011, 09:27 AM   #2182 (permalink)
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Just listened to the new Judas song, my conclusion is that it is just as weird as the Born This Way song. No suprise there.
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Old 05-06-2011, 10:24 AM   #2183 (permalink)
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Pop music may not be filled with musicians with technical proficiency or musical knowledge sky high,
Neither is much of rock music.
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Just listened to the new Judas song, my conclusion is that it is just as weird as the Born This Way song. No suprise there.
I think anybody who really thinks Gaga is that weird is fiercely sheltered. As somebody who specialises in 'weird' I find her quirkyness quite light, to be frank. Her attempts at being dark and spooky just come off as silly camp to me. I mean, It's working itself eerily into Zlad's 'anti-pope' in terms of creative direction.

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Neither is much of rock music.
Rock IS pop.
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I think anybody who really thinks Gaga is that weird is fiercely sheltered. As somebody who specialises in 'weird' I find her quirkyness quite light, to be frank. Her attempts at being dark and spooky just come off as silly camp to me. I mean, It's working itself eerily into Zlad's 'anti-pope' in terms of creative direction.



Rock IS pop.
I think it depends on the person, their musical preferences, and what they are exposed to. People have different views and opinions on what constiutes a music video and artist being 'weird'
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Old 05-06-2011, 01:23 PM   #2186 (permalink)
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I think it depends on the person, their musical preferences, and what they are exposed to. People have different views and opinions on what constiutes a music video and artist being 'weird'
And yet, you have a Nirvana avatar...

Frankly, I'll state this. As a songwriter, lyrically, Gaga and Kurt Cobain are extremely similar. Fragmented ideas, words obviously assembled together for their value sonically over actual discernible meaning. Darkness, blasphemy, ambiguity. Offensive, violent, 'rebellious' concepts. Loud choruses dispersed between softer verses, switched back, and forth like an on off switch(Smells like Teen Spirit, Bad Romance).

Why?

Rock is pop. If you don't believe me, go listen to some Sergei Rachmaninov, and tell me that Kurt Cobain, and rock n' roll, is the deepest most intricate music that's infinitely evolved beyond Gaga.

Besides, by labelling Gaga as 'weird', or being offended by her you're basically giving her what she wants. Free advertisement to those who want to have the illusion that pop is now somehow rebellious, and therefore 'cool'. Which is the entire thing which sells Gaga's operation. It has little to do with musical distinction, or originality. Because, with just a little insight, and research, you'll find out she has very very little.

I'd also like to add on that note, big hand to Gaga for 'throwing away the gimmicks'. I find it amazingly depressing that she basically had her music challenged, promised the world that she'd make an album that was 'about the music' then turned around, and continued to churn out the same silly shock value in order to sell music for a career that is obviously experiencing relatively no melodic progression.
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Neither is much of rock music.
What's your point?
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What's your point?
My point is that you seemed to be suggesting rock music is by nature more musically sound than pop. Not that I'm really much of a Gaga fan at all (I'm not) but you seemed to be making a generalisation.
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So I watched Lady Gaga's new video for Judas, and although I've been a closet fan of a lot of her stuff, I'm not really a fan. It seems she's getting a bit repetitive on not only her song material but her strong symbolism/themes etc. I dunno.
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And yet, you have a Nirvana avatar...

Frankly, I'll state this. As a songwriter, lyrically, Gaga and Kurt Cobain are extremely similar. Fragmented ideas, words obviously assembled together for their value sonically over actual discernible meaning. Darkness, blasphemy, ambiguity. Offensive, violent, 'rebellious' concepts. Loud choruses dispersed between softer verses, switched back, and forth like an on off switch(Smells like Teen Spirit, Bad Romance).

Why?

Rock is pop. If you don't believe me, go listen to some Sergei Rachmaninov, and tell me that Kurt Cobain, and rock n' roll, is the deepest most intricate music that's infinitely evolved beyond Gaga.

Besides, by labelling Gaga as 'weird', or being offended by her you're basically giving her what she wants. Free advertisement to those who want to have the illusion that pop is now somehow rebellious, and therefore 'cool'. Which is the entire thing which sells Gaga's operation. It has little to do with musical distinction, or originality. Because, with just a little insight, and research, you'll find out she has very very little.

I'd also like to add on that note, big hand to Gaga for 'throwing away the gimmicks'. I find it amazingly depressing that she basically had her music challenged, promised the world that she'd make an album that was 'about the music' then turned around, and continued to churn out the same silly shock value in order to sell music for a career that is obviously experiencing relatively no melodic progression.
Haha, I cba ripping this post apart. Lady Gaga similar to the legendary Kurt Cobain and Nirvana!
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