STOP Right now! thank you very Much! Spice Girls Thread!!

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Originally Posted by starrynight

14 years? Where do you get that figure from? Bananarama where far from forgotten and still released records.

Spice Girls formed in 1995 Bananarama in 1981.
I never said they weren't releasing records, I was implying the Spice Girls were the first real pure pop band to have success on a worldwide level since Bananarama came along in 1981.

As for Eternal I think this is the 5th time now I said I wasn't including R&B in that.

And then it is claimed that The Spice Girls are important as they had some copycat groups. Well acts that sell records always have other groups who follow them, doesn't mean that they or those who follow them are that significant. But it was also said here that they couldn't repeat what The Spice Girls did. So does that mean they are irrelevant then? You can't have it both ways and say it is important these groups followed them and then say they weren't actually any good.

They changed the demographic of signing boy bands to signing girl bands after the industry consensus was that girl pop groups (Not R&B girl bands) were dead. That was the only argument I was making. I didn't say they were important I just said they paved the way, which they clearly did.

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

Ha! I vaguely remember B*Witched but all of those others ones I don't know at all.

You mean you've never experienced the joys of Vanilla?



I don't know how much truth there is in this but I hear this band only exist because one exec from one record company bet another that in the wake of the Spice Girls success he could get together any random bunch of skanks who couldn't sing a note, give them a really awful song and it would still be a hit.

It got to no 14 in the UK charts so I guess he had a point.

[Unknown Soldier]

Originally Posted by Necromancer

Who did they pave the ground for? What are some of the "manufactured girl bands" after the Spice Girls. I just think that they were a pop "Fad" of the day. Nothing more!

To understand the impact that the Spice Girls had, you really had to be in the UK from around the mid 90`s onwards to experience their impact. They were always on TV, in the newspapers and the kids were always talking about them and teenage girls often identified themselves with each member of the band. They could be described as a crappy fad, but they did kick off a whole genre of manufactured girl bands and for that reason will always be remembered.

I don`t know why you mentioned the Wilson sisters in this debate, these were clearly female rocksters who fronted a rock band much like Joan Jett and Pat Benatar etc.

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Okay. I came in the middle of the conversation and didn't realize this was just about British female pop groups. If that's what we're talking about then I can't really think of any that came right before the Spice Girls either.

There were no other all female groups anything like the Spice Girls here in the UK, the only other popular females bands before them, were bands like Bananarama and Fuzzbox etc but you could hardly call these bands manufactured.

[Necromancer]

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

To understand the impact that the Spice Girls had, you really had to be in the UK from around the mid 90`s onwards to experience their impact. They were always on TV, in the newspapers and the kids were always talking about them and teenage girls often identified themselves with each member of the band. They could be described as a crappy fad, but they did kick off a whole genre of manufactured girl bands and for that reason will always be remembered.
I don`t know why you mentioned the Wilson sisters in this debate, these were clearly female rocksters who fronted a rock band much like Joan Jett and Pat Benatar etc.

The Spice Girls were big here in the states also if my memory serves correct, I just never did personally give them any notice.

The reason I mentioned Heart was because I originally took it for granted that the main subject concerned "Woman that paved the way for other female artist within the music industry". I didn't realize at the time the debate subject was "manufactured girl bands". Thanks for the explanation Soldier, I really do appreciate it! my friend.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

You mean you've never experienced the joys of Vanilla?



I don't know how much truth there is in this but I hear this band only exist because one exec from one record company bet another that in the wake of the Spice Girls success he could get together any random bunch of skanks who couldn't sing a note, give them a really awful song and it would still be a hit.

It got to no 14 in the UK charts so I guess he had a point.

God that was truly awful!
For me there is no difference between the Spice Girls and that car crash of a girl band in the vid.
It's anti pop.

[starrynight]

Anti-pop is a good way to describe it, typical of chart stuff from the 90s and 2000s I suppose. Why celebrate anti-pop? The best pop influences now do not come from what The Spice Girls did anyway, the best stuff is more indie. And that's partly a cover of an old song anyway, and not a good one originally too.

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Originally Posted by starrynight

Why celebrate anti-pop?

Exactly. Bands like The Spice Girls are everything that is wrong with pop music.
It doesn't surprise me at all though, that bands like The Spice Girls and the pop trash in Urban's vid did so well in the charts.
It just goes to show you the kind of rubbish people will listen to.
I still find it hard living in a world where Bananarama can get to number 1.

[right-track]

Right...now I'm well on one!!!
Who are these people that like this rubbish?

Is this kind of 'stuff' lyrically poetic?...NO!
Is it soulful?...NO!
Exciting?...NO!
Original?...NO!

I'll tell you what it is...it's SHITE!
Chewing gum for the ears.
McDonald's drive-through muzac.
The people who are responsible for producing this pre-fabricated rubbish, those who perform it and most of all those who buy it, should be shot in the back of the head!

Why does this kind of crap do so well then? I hear you ask.
Because the vast majority of so called music lovers, not unlike the vast majority of people on earth...are complete idiots with no taste whatsoever!

You people are an insult to music.
And this thread is an insult to MusicBanter.

[starrynight]

Well not everything Bananarama did was crap, I've always loved Robert De Niro's Waiting for example. Through a Child's Eyes is a nice ballad. The influence of Stock, Aitken and Waterman on their later music I didn't like so much though. Love in the First Degree is tolerable.

[right-track]

Originally Posted by starrynight

Well not everything Bananarama did was crap, I've always loved Robert De Niro's Waiting for example. Through a Child's Eyes is a nice ballad. The influence of Stock, Aitken and Waterman on their later music I didn't like so much though. Love in the First Degree is tolerable.

They're all sung in the same bloody key because they can't fucking sing.
Another thing. Why does there have to be 3 of them when it only takes one of them to sing the song, badly?