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Old 06-17-2022, 03:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I thought Brits didn't call themselves European? Only when they want some gold-plated tin cup I guess.
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Old 06-17-2022, 03:29 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I thought Brits didn't call themselves European? Only when they want some gold-plated tin cup I guess.
Brits are clearly going insane, but Eurovision is open to and has participants representing non-European countries as well, like Australia and Israel.
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Old 06-17-2022, 04:07 PM   #23 (permalink)
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As long as you're white I guess.
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Old 06-17-2022, 06:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Brits never thought of themselves as Europeans, mostly I guess because they aren't on the continent of Europe, but in reality because most English people (not saying Scottish or Welsh, but English) regard Europeans as "foreigners". Given their long history of picking a fight with any country they could, that's not very surprising. England has long believed itself superior to all of Europe (the phrase "filthy foreigners" was bandied about a lot in the 70s and 80s) and has at one time or another been at war, or in opposition to France, Germany, Holland (Netherlands duh), Spain, Portugal, Italy and probably a whole lot more besides. And Ireland of course. And Scotland. And Wales.
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Old 06-18-2022, 03:41 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Nevermind that England was populated by Germans, French people, scandinavians of various sorts and live in a country littered with roman ruins. So much for not being a part of Europe.
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Yes and besides, England is just factually part of what is defined as Europe. Them claiming they're not is such misguided chauvinism
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Europe is not a geographical entity though, but an ideological one. The continent is Eurasia, Europe is the line drawn on a map separating civilization from the Asiatic horde, Enlightenment from barbarism and so forth. Chauvinism isn't exactly the exclusive prerogative of the English.


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Old 06-18-2022, 05:52 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Oh sure. But the unwillingness to call themselves European is still irrational, and connected to all the ugly Brexit sentiments
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Old 06-18-2022, 07:36 AM   #29 (permalink)
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We could make a better case of it up here in Norway, but we don't cause we're not silly like that.
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Old 06-18-2022, 08:23 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Oh, you silly Europeans thinking you're so superior to everyone else.

Because everyone knows it's we Americans who are superior.
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