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ElephantSack 06-12-2009 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by swurleez (Post 680517)
fz should get his own category on here. hehehe

Seconded.


zeppy111 07-12-2009 12:11 PM

After finally digging out my parents old LP's and kicking my ass into gear to go buy a record player that works, I got the pleasure of listening to 'Freak Out!' and DAMN was it amazing. Although the sound quality is not up to standard with a regular cd, listening to it on LP was a great experience for me and really a great album.

The return of the son of monster magnet could be possibly go down as one of the weirdest yet most awesome songs, EVER!

Zappa is king!

Antonio 07-12-2009 12:13 PM

^is that all you have by him?

zeppy111 07-12-2009 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 702468)
^is that all you have by him?

Got 'Hot Rats', 'Apostrophe' and 'Sheik Yerbouti" on cd, but only 'Freak Out!' on LP.

gunnels 07-12-2009 01:58 PM

I bought Weasels Ripped my Flesh on vinyl the other day, and I just got a record player.
However, there is something wrong with it; it always plays LP's slower than it should. So right now I'm a little pissed off.

morgos 07-13-2009 04:14 AM

Frank Zappa is probably my favorite musician, he just has so much variety within his discography, that it's hard to really get tired of listening to him.

My current top 3 albums by Zappa:

Hot Rats
Uncle Meat
Over-Nite Sensation

Other favorites include Freak Out, Apostrophe, We're only in it for the money, The Grand Wazoo, and 200 Motels. In a month the top 3 will probably be different.

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Originally Posted by gunnels (Post 659261)
I've fallen in love. :love:
I'm doing an extra credit assignment for my Spanish class and I'm doing it on Frank Zappa.
He's not hispanic, but my teacher doesn't know that; when it comes to music she's about as knowledgeable as a scab. :D

I know the post is a couple of months old, but just had to applaud you on how awesome that is. Have you read his book "The Real Frank Zappa Book" by any chance? If not, I highly recommend it. I guarantee it to be a good read for any Zappa appreciator.

thesilencebureau 07-13-2009 02:31 PM

Odd fact: When Frank Zappa recorded he had all the music written out and expected his session musicians to follow the score and he conducted them like an orchestra. So I am told.

million dollar basher 07-16-2009 02:15 PM

Man, one of my dad's friends snuck me an older pressing of "Weasels Ripped my Flesh" when I was a kid. I wasn't allowed to listen to Zappa till I was a little older, and I have vivid memories of stretching my headphone chords into my closet and listening to that album over and over in secret. "Eric Dolphy Memorial BBQ" definitely tweaked my ten-year-old mind.

Zappa was one of a kind.

Schizotypic 07-20-2009 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PhishFood (Post 79578)
Fun Piece of trivia: Zappa has 74 Studio albums.

I have exactly 74 Zappa albums. 40 Studio albums and 34 Live albums. Posthumous albums I decided not to include, with the exception of Everything Is Healing Nicely. Including posthumous albums (mostly live albums) and compilations the guy has over 100 of them.

gunnels 07-20-2009 02:04 AM

I currently have 12 of zap's babies.
They're all pretty much awesome. Right now my favorite is a tie between the Rats of Hotness and Weasels for the Ripping of Flesh.
Of course Burnt Weeny Sandwich and Apostrophe aren't far behind.

Schizotypic 07-20-2009 11:26 AM

Yeah, I just got all my Zappa a few days ago. I've listened to Hot Rats through a couple times, and that album was pretty kickin', or Zappa In New York (Live album) was hilarious and entertaining...also the music was seemingly effortlessly amazing... I wish I was there. =(

Jester 07-31-2009 08:49 PM

I think Zappa was working on this album with something to do with underwater sounds before he died, or something.

Uh, I like Hot Rats, Freak Out!, We're Only In It For the Money, and Burnt Weeny Sandwich. That's about all I know.

Antonio 07-31-2009 09:02 PM

above two posters, have you listened to Apostrophe'?

Jester 07-31-2009 09:43 PM

Nah. : (

Antonio 07-31-2009 09:53 PM

well i'll send a PM your way then

Jester 08-01-2009 02:22 PM

I listened to it, it's cool. I'm listening again later tonight, probably.

morgos 08-02-2009 03:42 PM

Apostrophe is a fantastic album. That solo on "stink-foot" is one of my favorites.

bardonodude 09-02-2009 09:03 PM

all of zappa's stuff before like '83 is what I consider to be his best period of music. He used to be my favorite musician but I haven't listened to him for close to two years :(.

Eberger0001 09-02-2009 11:04 PM

Early, early Zappa will always be best in my book.

Molecules 12-04-2009 12:27 PM

Frank Vincent Zappa
December 21, 1940 – December 4, 1993



333 12-04-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Molecules (Post 777835)
Frank Vincent Zappa
December 21, 1940 – December 4, 1993



Very appropriate, Molecules. Thanks for the vid. On that note:


dazamaru 12-06-2009 05:47 AM

Out of all the persons that have existed on this earth, Zappa would have been one Id like to spend the afternoon with.

It's sad. People see the hair, the scowl and hear the music...and immediately think "drugs" But Frank was clean (cept for ciggies)

I get frustrated cause I cant write music like his, LOL, but he remains a large influence on my musical choices and my thinking.

Now I dont like everything he's done. The Sheik Yerbouti/You are What you is period was really rank. Thingfish was highly racist and idiotic....and the Mothers period with Flo and Eddie...ahh......But thru Zappa, I learned about Stravinsky, Hindemith, Elliot Carter, Stockhausen, Oliver Messiaen and others.....Not bad for a black kid from urban Philadelphia, huh?

Listening to "Sinister Footwear" is just one of my favorite Zappa moments. I mean there are so many compositions I could name...but this one and "Zoot Allures" almost brings me to tears...the emotions, the many colors...its just a sadness that this man no longer is with us.

Kill Ugly Radio.

MuscleInAJar 12-07-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PhishFood (Post 79549)
Frank Zappa is god, comments?

agreed

mickey_phinn 12-09-2009 01:59 PM

Dweezil is not bad either - in fact his guitar style is highly reminiscent of Frank's. His solo stuff is kind of garbage, but the Zappa Plays Zappa shows are fantastic. His version of "Inca Roads" blew my mind.

gunnels 12-09-2009 04:47 PM

His cover of "My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama" was awful. :\
But yeah, he is top notch in Zappa plays Zappa.

music_phantom13 12-09-2009 08:45 PM

I had a chance to go see Zappa Plays Zappa last year and I didn't go... I really regret not going now.

I think Frank Zappa is pretty much the only evidence you need to bring to an argument when someone claims that the best musicians are those on drugs. Well, throw Minor Threat/Fugazi in there as well and you're really set.

missinglink 12-10-2009 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by music_phantom13 (Post 781798)
I think Frank Zappa is pretty much the only evidence you need to bring to an argument when someone claims that the best musicians are those on drugs.

Much agreed ... I do recall many a trippy evening to the tunes of the legendary Frank Zappa

Weeeee !!

Antonio 12-10-2009 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by music_phantom13 (Post 781798)
I had a chance to go see Zappa Plays Zappa last year and I didn't go... I really regret not going now.

I think Frank Zappa is pretty much the only evidence you need to bring to an argument when someone claims that the best musicians are those on drugs. Well, throw Minor Threat/Fugazi in there as well and you're really set.

http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4c...aha_oh_wow.jpg


*joke, joke*

Antonio 12-10-2009 09:45 AM

oh god yes


gunnels 12-10-2009 03:32 PM

^Greatest twenty minutes of video ever.

clutnuckle 12-16-2009 05:06 PM

I do love me some 'We're Only In It For The Money'. That's how ya do satire, gentlemen.

brighambartol 02-07-2010 02:20 PM

who else thinks Frank Zappa has the best song titles ever?

Antonio 02-07-2010 03:33 PM

tbh i'd have to give that to the band Anal Cunt, but he's definetaly close behind. ;)

teila 02-14-2010 04:33 PM

Help!
 
What is the headline on 34 page of issue 3 of Frank Zappa's Society pages (US) edition???? please reply

Vespertine 10-10-2010 05:25 AM

Zappa is bliss :)

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 10-10-2010 01:41 PM

Zappa is such a strange figure. For the longest of time I was only introduced to such a shortage of material like "Valley Girl" and "Dancin' Fool" or basically his most piss-takey type stuff.

Years later after seeing a few interviews by the man, and delving deeper into his material(especially early Mothers) I've gained a new found appreciation for the man.

It's a major shame that only the toilet humor side of Zappa is really known. I mean, it's a very important side, but I think the intellect of him, and his music, is by far one of the most underappreciated aspects of Zappa. Albeit, I doubt he'd be pretentious enough to mind.

Honestly, I think as acclaimed as he is, Zappa is still by far one of the most under-appreciated figures in all of music. The way he'd fearlessly hold his own opinions, and had such a respect for a wide variety of music while even more fearlessly showcased an irreverent spirit to mainstream trends.

He opened doors to forms of musical experimentation in mainstream rock music that were just not possible before. Honestly, music would been a way darker blander place without him.

OctaneHugo 10-19-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah (Post 941219)
Zappa is such a strange figure. For the longest of time I was only introduced to such a shortage of material like "Valley Girl" and "Dancin' Fool" or basically his most piss-takey type stuff.

Years later after seeing a few interviews by the man, and delving deeper into his material(especially early Mothers) I've gained a new found appreciation for the man.

It's a major shame that only the toilet humor side of Zappa is really known. I mean, it's a very important side, but I think the intellect of him, and his music, is by far one of the most underappreciated aspects of Zappa. Albeit, I doubt he'd be pretentious enough to mind.

Honestly, I think as acclaimed as he is, Zappa is still by far one of the most under-appreciated figures in all of music. The way he'd fearlessly hold his own opinions, and had such a respect for a wide variety of music while even more fearlessly showcased an irreverent spirit to mainstream trends.

He opened doors to forms of musical experimentation in mainstream rock music that were just not possible before. Honestly, music would been a way darker blander place without him.

To be honest, he's my musical idol. Not only was the man a total genius, but he didn't limit himself to any one genre. Sure, you have bands that mix styles, but Zappa's one of the only people who's covered pretty much everything possible and done it well. As you say, he stood up for his opinions, etc...he was just generally an amazing person.

Tor_Hershman 10-29-2010 07:36 PM

Who doesn't like Zappa's cover of "Stairway To Heaven"?

bugsy2301 10-30-2010 08:01 PM

How exactly would one go about introducing themselves to Zappa? Bearing in mind I've got absolutely no idea about him or his music.

clutnuckle 10-30-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bugsy2301 (Post 950274)
How exactly would one go about introducing themselves to Zappa? Bearing in mind I've got absolutely no idea about him or his music.

If you like satire, check out We're Only In It For The Money.

If you like good instrumental rock with jazz undertones or blues overtones (what does that even MEAN?), check out Hot Rats.

For something more sprawling and persona-defining, try Joe's Garage.

Other highly-regarded albums of his: Absolutely Free, Apostrophe ('), Freak Out!, The Grand Wazoo, One Size Fits All...

There are many more routes, but those ones are general enough for you to diverge off of them further.


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