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Dr_Rez 11-10-2008 06:43 PM

I am gross and perverted
Im obsessed n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little had changed
I am the tool of the government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you

Anti-Christ 11-10-2008 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 543211)
I am gross and perverted
Im obsessed n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little had changed
I am the tool of the government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you

I'm the Slime is such a great song:D

Dr_Rez 11-10-2008 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Christ (Post 543220)
I'm the Slime is such a great song:D

;)

Anti-Christ 11-10-2008 07:32 PM

Imagine Zappa were still alive today...

making more orchestral music and being informative to the common folk on politics. I was only 1 when he died...

Zarko 11-11-2008 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Big McLargeHuge (Post 542287)
I just bought The Real Frank Zappa Book the other day, and it hasn't disappointed.

I'm a relatively new Zappa fan and my collection of his stuff is small, but I love everything I've heard from the man, especially his jazz-fusion stuff. Any reccomendations on which album I should acquire next?

I already have Apostrophe, Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch, Joe's Garage, Sheik Yerbouti, and The Grand Wazoo.

Weasels Ripped My Flesh...

Musicgasm 11-14-2008 10:18 PM

i grew up listening to Zappa. He's so vulgar but my family loves him haha.

Halfa 11-15-2008 10:34 PM

zappa had a ridiculous guitar style. just throwing that out there...but it was utterly ludicrous.

its freaking awesome

Anti-Christ 11-16-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfa (Post 545886)
zappa had a ridiculous guitar style. just throwing that out there...but it was utterly ludicrous.

its freaking awesome

And I absolutely love it!

I love the solos in Muffin Man, Any Kind of Pain, Chunga's Revenge, Montana (especially the live version in Stockholm 1973, look it up on youtube), Fifty-Fifty, Hungry Freaks, Daddy!, uhh, Black Napkins, Shut up 'n Play yer Guitar etc...

Subterfuge 11-17-2008 12:47 AM

I forgot the song with an awesome guitar solo and now I remember it was Dirty Love. It wasn't too long but it was a crazy solo and the song itself was great as well.

bathory_79 11-17-2008 02:49 PM

I couldn't pick a better band to spoof Sgt. Pepper.

and Zappa in Python is love :):)

Molecules 03-03-2009 09:11 AM

I have been brainstorming a provisional top 100 albums for want of anything better to do (to be posted on the forum over my dead body, unless i can think of an ingenious new twist) and was picking out my favourite Frank Zappa albums.

Only In It For the Money is extremely compatible with me, but Uncle Meat might just take the biscuit. It was realised by Zappa as a companion to the film, and one side of the album is a long edit of excerpts from said film. The other side (like Lumpy Gravy) is Frank just on the cutting room floor with miles of tape from various aborted orchestra sessions and live performances, random treated found sounds all cut and pasted together, to form a glorious whole.

I always loved the low-budget meanderings of the 60's stuff most, Only In It For the Money is the 'pop satire' album; Uncle Meat and Gravy are all fusion and 'alt-classical', very stream-of-consciousness, they only work really when heard in one sitting.

Having said that it's a nostalgia thing, I heard the 60's stuff first, and the distended motifs and ideas strewn about those tape music albums came into remarkable fruition on Burnt Weeny Sandwich and Weasels Ripped My Flesh only a year later. The man really churned them out... Oh yeah and in-between he did Hot Rats, which for some reason has never fully connected with me. Maybe it's just too polished.

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/frank-zappa/64-1.jpg
1969

jackhammer 03-03-2009 10:39 AM

I have finally managed to get his discography together - 136 albums! Next is the 100+ bootlegs I have an eye on :D

Robotnik 03-03-2009 11:09 AM

Frank Zappa is probably my favorite musician ever.

I don't think I could pick a favorite album. If I had to, Hot Rats probably. It's the one I listen to most at any rate.

The dude was a legend, a guitar god, and had a sense of humor; something a lot of musicians sorely lack.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-03-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 606556)
I have finally managed to get his discography together - 136 albums! Next is the 100+ bootlegs I have an eye on :D

I've got all of his official studio & live albums and that comes to about 88 albums , so what the hell are the other 40 odd if they're not bootlegs?

Compilations?

Molecules 03-03-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 606556)
I have finally managed to get his discography together - 136 albums! Next is the 100+ bootlegs I have an eye on :D

you're sick

I have a couple of the official live albums from the early seventies and the endless scatological comedy is pretty bad, especially as you can't see it

also is Läther worth getting?

jackhammer 03-03-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 606578)
I've got all of his official studio & live albums and that comes to about 88 albums , so what the hell are the other 40 odd if they're not bootlegs?

Compilations?

Yeah it's 88 albums, plus a 12 disc set entitled 20 years of. When I clicked on properties folder I read some releases as double albums hence the number. I do have approx 90 bootlegs on the way. So it's 100 ATM.

ElephantSack 04-01-2009 06:12 PM

"Now I'd ride along the border...
With my tweezers gleaming in the moonlight at night.
Then I'd.. GET A CUP OF COFFEEEE.
And give my foot a push.
Just me and my pygmie pony, over by the dental floss bush!"

Antonio 04-01-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PhishFood (Post 79549)
Frank Zappa is god, comments?

yes.

henry 04-08-2009 03:29 PM

sheik yerbouti

vacuumnoise 04-16-2009 11:00 AM

whats the craziest Zappa album for someone who really likes noisy stuff?? please suggest...

caus i much prefer Captain Beefheart to Zappa, but I have more Beefheart albums, caus i Just got more into that stuff...

Dr_Rez 04-16-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by vacuumnoise (Post 639386)

caus i much prefer Captain Beefheart to Zappa, but I have more Beefheart albums, caus i Just got more into that stuff...

Then just listen to when Beefheart plays with Zappa! Problem solved.

Antonio 04-16-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Christ (Post 546354)
And I absolutely love it!

I love the solos in Muffin Man, Any Kind of Pain, Chunga's Revenge, Montana (especially the live version in Stockholm 1973, look it up on youtube), Fifty-Fifty, Hungry Freaks, Daddy!, uhh, Black Napkins, Shut up 'n Play yer Guitar etc...

one of my favorite guitar solos ever

vacuumnoise 04-16-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 639387)
Then just listen to when Beefheart plays with Zappa! Problem solved.

ok

which albums?

:afro:

cardboard adolescent 04-17-2009 08:58 PM

hot rats, metal man has hornet's wings, bongo fury

vacuumnoise 04-18-2009 02:08 AM

thanks, Ill check them out...

Roemilca 04-18-2009 07:39 PM

I've only really PURCHASED 'Waka/Jawaka', but I have around seven on my computer.

Mirrorball95 04-22-2009 06:15 PM

'Hot Plate Heaven At The Green Hotel' is a great song. Also 'The Mudshark Interview' is hilarious. As you can tell probably I have 'Cheap Thrills' & also 'Hot Rats' which I was blown away by the first time i heard it.

Guybrush 04-28-2009 03:37 PM

My favourite Zappa album is Joe's Garage. I find there's not much to not like about it .. At number two for me is Apostrophe (').

If you don't know them, consider them warmly recommended!

Molecules 04-28-2009 04:55 PM

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_aKtRrfCXlV...0/1967f23z.jpg

It is always a close call but this one nabs the title of most cherished Zappa album for me.
Contender for best album of 1968 imo, although it supersedes all of the competition by making them look intellectually bankrupt hedonists. Could talk for hours about how much I love this album... the home-recorded sound, the mixture of (ridiculously catchy) pop satire with tape splicing and general experimentation, it is just one big, effortless send-up of Sgt. Pepper's and it's brood basically...

I found a label compilation somewhere and every song was a different interpretation of this song, forgot where i saw it though :p::


'Golly, do I ever have a lotta soul!'

ElephantSack 04-28-2009 05:59 PM

Over-Nite Sensation was the one that I was first exposed to, and it still might be my favorite. "Montana" almost brought me to tears the first time I heard it.
After that I saw a couple of movies that he made: Does Humor Belong in Music and The Dub Room Special. I have to say, I'm most favorable of his work from the seventies, particularly with Terry Bozzio. They seemed to have an indelible chemistry.
Whenever I'm at a bar that has a Touchtunes Jukebox, I like to put on "The Muffin Man" just to fuck with everyone.

The Monkey 05-04-2009 12:28 PM

So is the general opinion that "We're Only in It for the Money" is his best album?

ChiliColdBlood 05-04-2009 01:07 PM

Any of you guys seen Zappa Plays Zappa? I'm gonna check out the Progressive Nation Tour this year, hoping it lives up to the hype.

Zarko 05-04-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiliColdBlood (Post 652330)
Any of you guys seen Zappa Plays Zappa? I'm gonna check out the Progressive Nation Tour this year, hoping it lives up to the hype.

It was in Adelaide a few weeks ago, couldn't get there unfortunately :( Was really good apparently.

cardboard adolescent 05-04-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey (Post 652285)
So is the general opinion that "We're Only in It for the Money" is his best album?

i think that getting a general consensus on which of his 70+ albums is best is probably impossible. my favorite is absolutely free.

Bulldog 05-05-2009 05:44 AM

Absolutely Free is a terrific album. I haven't had a proper dig around the man's discography yet, but it's my favourite alongside Sheik Yerbouti and Jazz From Hell.

Molecules 05-05-2009 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey (Post 652285)
So is the general opinion that "We're Only in It for the Money" is his best album?


you should dig around on here first and see what tickles, the allmusic reviewers can be hit and miss but i cant argue with most of those ratings. Different albums for different days of the week I think, despite being impossibly eclectic he had distinct phases of experimental form, which will all become clear when you read the reviews... i.e. mid seventies zap is a whole different kettle of fish to late 60's or whatever

milesahead 05-06-2009 12:40 PM

Then Miles Davis is the Devil, and John Coltrane is the Holy Ghost. Now I have something to believe in, thank you!!!

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Originally Posted by ChiliColdBlood (Post 652330)
Any of you guys seen Zappa Plays Zappa? I'm gonna check out the Progressive Nation Tour this year, hoping it lives up to the hype.

ChiliColdBlood,

To tell you the truth "Project Object" is way better. "Zappa Plays Zappa" is a freaking joke, over priced, TERRIBLE SOUND, and half of the original Mothers Play with Dweasel out of binding contracts, not because they want to play. The other remaining Mothers playing with "Project Object" play Zappa's music because they want to help spread the word of Zappa. But that's my opinion.

ChiliColdBlood 05-07-2009 11:50 AM

Hm, well, good to know. I'd only heard good things about Zappa Plays Zappa till now.

The only problem is Project Object doesn't tour as much! It sounds like they'd be better to see, but I don't think they've ever played anywhere near me... blah. I'll probably go to Progressive Nation anyway, I (kinda) like DT and Pain of Salvation.

gunnels 05-14-2009 05:44 PM

I've fallen in love. :love:
I'm doing an extra credit assignment for my Spanish class and I'm doing it on Frank Zappa.
He's not hispanic, but my teacher doesn't know that; when it comes to music she's about as knoledgeable as a scab. :D

swurleez 06-12-2009 04:09 PM

fz should get his own category on here. hehehe


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