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Old 12-29-2014, 03:27 PM   #21 (permalink)
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lol @ the Genesis recs.
Gotta try man! If he really wants to get into prog he's gonna have to do the G-word sometime!
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Old 12-29-2014, 03:28 PM   #22 (permalink)
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So imma just start recing some weird **** and newer stuff.

Krautrock:
Can - Tago Mago
Can - Ege Bamyasi
Neu! - Neu!
Neu! - Neu! '75
Faust - IV

Classic Prog:
Rush - Hemispheres
Rush - A Farewell To Kings
Rush - 2112
Yes - The Yes Album
King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King
King Crimson - Larks Tounge In Aspic
King Crimson - Red

Other **** I consider to be prog:
King Crimson - Three Of A Perfect Pair
Tool - Ænima
Tool - Lateralus
Primus - Pork Soda
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Opeth - Heritage
The Dillinger Escape Plan any of their albums will do
Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Pink Floyd - Animals

Sorry if any of these are repeats
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Old 12-29-2014, 03:29 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Just listen to this

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Hmm, what's this in my pocket?

*epic guitar solo blasts into my face*

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Old 12-29-2014, 03:31 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I wouldn't suggest to him, who has the attention span, to quote himself, of a gnat, an album on which one of the songs is over twenty minutes long! Even if it is a classic. I'd go for "Trespass" or maybe "Nursery cryme". I feel songs like "The return of the giant hogweed", "The musical box" and "White mountain" would be more likely to engage his attention, if at all...
He might think he has the attention span of a gnat but far from it, we're talking about a guy that has almost finished reading all of the Wheel of Time and believe me that series of books requires dedicated attention throughout.
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Old 12-29-2014, 03:35 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I might steal this type of thread idea at some point reat way to get recs fast.
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:12 PM   #26 (permalink)
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He might think he has the attention span of a gnat but far from it, we're talking about a guy that has almost finished reading all of the Wheel of Time and believe me that series of books requires dedicated attention throughout.
I meant musically. He doesn't like long songs and gets bored easily. I know he can concentrate: after all, he wrote that "Return of the Kings of Metal" thing and he's doing the comic book journal. I just mean that he wouldn't be prepared to wait for what might be seen as the better parts of something like "Supper's ready".

Also, I think we're bombarding him here, which is never a good idea with prog. You want to try it, see what you like and move on from there, rather than pile up a list of recs, many of which he may not ever try. I'd suggest limiting your ideas to one or two tracks you think might appeal to him.
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:29 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Rush - 2112




Like I said on page 1, the twenty-something minute title track is fantastic. Multiple listens are kind of dulling the effect, but it's still pretty awesome. The first part, "Overture" perhaps throws a few too many riffs out without sticking to them long enough, but for the most part they're high quality, and when it leads into "The Temples of Syrinx" the awesomeness kicks into high gear. With a beefier production it would actually be heavy as **** at times. As it is, it's still metal as ****.

This also contains my fav vocal performance of the album. Their singer has always been what got between me and liking this band. His voice is just borderline annoying. But his more raw singing style on much of this album really brings an energy that is just infectious, and especially during this part of the title track.

Third part, "Discovery" is one of several melodic interludes. I'm ignorant of songwriting in general, and with prog I'm pretty much adrift without a sail or an oar, so I have no idea why there should be a tempo shift here, or why the band should use this rather than that change. I'm still digging this though. Each softer part is unique, and when it gets more metallic the song is all the more intense for it. So I'm just gonna assume Rush know what they're doing.

That being said, many of the sections seem more like samplers of songs, and I actually think that stretching this out into a thirty minute long song would have made each one feel more complete. "The Temples of Syrinx" is just far too awesome to be only two minutes long.

I've given this album a few listens to let it sink in, and honestly, I think I'm starting to dig the second half even more than "2112". Being separate songs, they seem to be allowed to develop more than the different sections of the title track. They range from heavier numbers, to somewhat complex power pop, and even a rather awesome ballad. Not to mention a killer closer in "Something for Nothing".

I can see why Machine would say this was dated, but it's still an excellent album to start off with, and possibly the first step to me not hating Rush. We'll see.
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:52 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I think you might enjoy the rabble-rousing images and violence in this early Genesis song... Give it a chance. It's quite heavy for a prog band.
I might as well get god damn Genesis out of the way...

Oh god, that's heavy for prog? I'm ****ed. I guess it is kinda heavy though. It also manages to be whimsical rather than just absurd. I imagine there's gonna be a fine line between like and loathe with Genesis' singing, but whoever that dude is manages to sound charming, and has a fair amount of energy.

I think they might not being going for whimsical though. Sounds like Genesis is going for epic, in the LOTR sense of the word. It is a pretty epic song, but that Hammond organ makes it goofy as well. See Deep Purple for the proper use of a Hammond organ in a rock song.

I could listen to more Genesis.

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Yeah, I would not call Asia prog in any sense of the word, despite having ex-members of Yes and ELP in it.

While you're at it, have one of the greatest songs Marillion ever wrote (don't worry about the radio-tuning bit at the beginning, it's only a few seconds)
I want to punch Marillion's singer in the face for being such a pompous douchebag. He makes Arcturus sound unpretentious. Other than that, I was merely bored by most of it, though there were a few good guitar and keyboard parts. Trollheart is a vag.

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Old 12-29-2014, 06:57 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I might as well get god damn Genesis out of the way...

Oh god, that's heavy for prog? I'm ****ed. I guess it is kinda heavy though. It also manages to be whimsical rather than just absurd. I imagine there's gonna be a fine line between like and loathe with Genesis' singing, but whoever that dude is manages to sound charming, and has a fair amount of energy.

I think they might not being going for whimsical though. Sounds like Genesis is going for epic, in the LOTR sense of the word. It is a pretty epic song, but that Hammond organ makes it goofy as well. See Deep Purple for the proper use of a Hammond organ in a rock song.

I could listen to more Genesis.



I want to punch Marillion's singer in the face for being such a pompous douchebag. He makes Arcturus sound unpretentious. Other than that, I was merely bored by most of it, though there were a few good guitar and keyboard parts. Trollheart is a vag.



My recs are heavier. And I'm glad you share my hatred for Marrilion, there's hope for you yet.
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:58 PM   #30 (permalink)
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The reason that interlude is in 2112 is that this is the point where (if you read the story of the concept) the hero finds an ancient guitar and starts to play it, thus leading to his "discovery" in another sense. The ending is pretty terrible though and I have always said it. Neil, you tosser.

Also, as to my recs, um, **** you. Night now!
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