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Originally Posted by Tributary Records
Not here to argue.
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Then why are you here? This is a forum, where we debate issues, and that invariably involves arguing. Also, your thread has a question mark at the end, so you obviously are asking for opinions. Not all of those will agree with yours, ergo, you are here to argue.
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This thread is about the future of progressive rock. Electronica once created on real time instruments like Tangerine Dream did in the 70's. Today, it is digital sound collaging is it not?
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You were the one who brought up the idea of electronic music not being genuine. Don't whine now when people take you to task about it. Threads often begin on one subject and veer all over the place, but this isn't OT: You brought it up.
You really need me to tell you that, when there are extremely talented musicians here who use computers in their music??
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I remember in school cutting out magazine pages and making collages on poster board. There was some briefly interesting stuff. I don't see that stuff going into art museums often.
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Please stop using this as an example. Nobody is saying that music made by stitching together samples of other people's music is superior to or even equal to making it on your own, but bands have been doing this since sampling became popular. Remember Art of Noise?
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Can one of the pro electronica posters here put up a video of some of this great electronica stuff that is so wonderful?
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Check the music in YorkeDaddy or Plainview's sig, and see if you can maintain your superior attitude.
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Originally Posted by Tributary Records
A musician implies that you play an instrument. Messing around on a computer is not playing an instrument. Making a song by sound collaging on a computer is not making one a musician. It does make them a digital sound collager.
It's not a bad thing, but it's not playing an instrument. The computer doesn't vibrate in real time when copy and pasting sound files.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse, or jsut refusing to see that your argument has been destroyed? I already told you, the guys who make electronic music here PLAY THEIR INSTRUMENTS --- REAL INSTRUMENTS --- AND THEN copy/paste it as they need to. Do I have to repeat that? Please stop this mantra about "music pasted on computer is not real music": you're missing (deliberately or accidentally) the real point. Please acknowledge which it is, as though I'm not an electronic musician and considered by some close-minded , you're annoying me and giving prog rock fans a bad name with your trenchant opinions and pontificating. It's embarrassing. If you want to have a proper debate, acknowledge that you're starting off from a false premise.