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Old 01-06-2016, 07:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Well for my money the phrase "not here to argue" indicates a few things: a) hes lost the debate but doesn't want to admit that and so is kind of running off without settling it or admitting defeat b) he has no further fuel for his argument or c) he's a little overwhelmed by the response he got. His thread is in itself a question, and he was the one who loudly proclaimed that the creation of music on or with computers was not "real" music. He's abjectly failed to back this up or argue conclusively, refusing to provide samples even though asked to do so repeatedly (he didn't have to insert the videos, he could have just linked to them. Surely any exposure is good exposure for these artists?) instead falling back on repeating the same points over and over, like a child with its fingers stuck in its ears.

And since you ask, he said in the OP he runs a prog record label or store, so he's more than familiar with musicians I would say, which is another reason why I find his high-handed attitude very annoying. It comes across as the worst accusation levelled at prog down the years, that of being pretentious and arrogant, thinking yourself better than others. This is definitely, without question, the impression he gives me. Don't know about you.

But come on: if you start an argument/debate/discussion, finish it or at least admit defeat.
I'm no record producer, but really I just got the impression that he's biased and hasn't adjusted his tastes toward electronic yet. It's common for some people to think other genres don't qualify as music. Sure, it's an unfair statement. But to be fair, asking him to do the same thing, as you said, repeatedly can make someone fall back on their point when they feel cornered. Believe me. I know. I've learned the hard way to be more careful about what I say.
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