negativecreep

I couldn't get into the ramones, Sex pistols definitely. I don't think they were overated at all, they loved the music they made. That is all you need.

The Batlord

But that's kind of what punk was. It was a tag applied by British music magazines to a bunch of English bands as a way to market them. All CBGB's really was was an art rock scene. It was no more a punk scene than was Cleveland with Pere Ubu and Devo and the Electric Eels.

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Unknown Soldier

Also a lot of the punk/new-wave and off-the-wall American bands at the time, usually had to go abroad usually to the UK, Europe and Japan to get any real media attention and it was only when these bands looked like being hot property that American labels then got behind them.

I can remember how a number of my favourite American bands back in the late 70s and early 80s weren't at all initially that well known in the USA, but a couple of years later they were. Had it not been for the Sex Pistols and the UK punk scene, I don't think punk would've ever taken off.

I don't think a number of the younger members here, are really that aware of the impact that the Sex Pistols had on UK society in the late 1970s and I've seen some silly comments as well labelling them a boy band! The Sex Pistols were about as unfriendly and anti-social as music ever got in the UK in the late 1970s.

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PhantomMartyr

They had to play in London because, yes, Punk was more popular over there than it was in New York. You know why? Because British people just love to hop on every trend to exist over there.

Urban Hat€monger ?

There wasn't a trend in New York, it was just a handful of bands who'd been playing the same couple of clubs since the early 70s and getting more or less nowhere.

Yeah just look at all the million selling British Hardcore or Emo bands, or all those chart topping British grunge bands in the mid 90s, or all those British Alt-Country bands in the early 00s, and look at all that British Hip Hop taking the world by storm.

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PhantomMartyr

Is that why NME always proclaims whatever Indie band that's popular that month the "saviors" of music? What about Cool Britannia? Punk in the UK? Madchester and Baggy? The British Invasion? I'm a fan of all those things (except NME, that magazine is terrible), but you have to admit people tend to hop on trends over there and sometimes overrate their own stuff.

Urban Hat€monger ?

Well if that's what you mean I'm actually glad that the UK is more open to trends and new stuff.
Look at grunge in the U.S. you were still getting sh*tty Pearl Jam imitators over 15 years after they first came out. Britpop came and went in the space of 3 years. Madchester not even 2 years. Hell the Shoegaze thing in the early 90s ended before most of those bands even cut their 2nd album. Even punk was considered dead and old hat by 1979.

Which is fine by me, the cream of a scene rises to the top, the also rans fade away and the next thing comes along to keep things interesting and vibrant.
I see nothing wrong with it.

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Ana Kovacheva

What I can say is that both bands are quite good in a different way (I dislike completely the successors to the Sex Pistols though).
From what I know the Sex Pistols were quite influential on the punk scene as a whole. I enjoy their music, it is really innovative. Also, they got involved with a number of politics-related issues. I guess they caught the spirit of the times.

skeetz

The Sex Pistols are better than The Ramones.

GuD

The Ramones are better than the Sex Pistols.


Cheery pop songs about girls and having fun > nihilistic self destructive crap. At least in songs.

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