Is Green Day punk or nah?

Blank. · 06-22-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Green Day were always major label darlings meant to sell 10+ year old music to mainstream teenagers

The slickest production money can buy and guitar tones meant to fill $60 a ticket arenas not your local scene's dive bar it's all the antithesis of punk but somehow people think they fit the genre because power chords

Sorry but songs like this say you're wrong. This isn't the most punk track ever, but to say it's not punk is ludicrous. In my opinion this proves Occukthawk right.

OccultHawk · 06-22-2016, 10:59 AM

I made this point earlier but coming to age at Gilman wasn't just punk it was the definitive punk at the time. MRR and all that. Any other claims are false revisionism.

Blank. · 06-22-2016, 11:15 AM

The releases by green day on lookout! was 90's punk. It's the material after that when they move away from punk.

Key · 06-22-2016, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

It's not even that I don't like Green Day it's just when you make them out to be something they really never were you're doing both them and Punk a disservice

To be fair, Green Day have always done a disservice to the music industry, whether it was toward punk or not.

workinsteamin · 06-23-2016, 09:44 AM

Anyone who isn't a genre-definition purist probably would agree that "Basket Case" and "Longview" are indeed legitimate "punk" songs in both sound and attitude. In fact, IMO there probably isn't much else recorded after 1987 or so that would qualify...

Blank. · 06-23-2016, 09:46 AM

Yeah, but most songs after Dookie I think move into alternative territory.

OccultHawk · 06-23-2016, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by workinsteamin

Anyone who isn't a genre-definition purist probably would agree that "Basket Case" and "Longview" are indeed legitimate "punk" songs in both sound and attitude. In fact, IMO there probably isn't much else recorded after 1987 or so that would qualify...

I would respect that date more if you went ahead and said '76.

**Frownland** · 06-23-2016, 10:30 AM

Nickelback isn't rock either because I like rock so they are not rock.

Blank. · 06-23-2016, 10:48 AM

I'm going to assume frownland is making a point. And I agree with him completely. You can't not call it something just cause you don't like it.

OccultHawk · 06-23-2016, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

I'm going to assume frownland is making a point. And I agree with him completely. You can't not call it something just cause you don't like it.

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OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	I made this point earlier but coming to age at Gilman wasn't just punk it was the definitive punk at the time. MRR and all that. Any other claims are false revisionism.

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Blank. Jacob Sartorius Join Date: May 2016 Location: Dank memes Posts: 4,034	The releases by green day on lookout! was 90's punk. It's the material after that when they move away from punk.

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workinsteamin Groupie Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 10	Anyone who isn't a genre-definition purist probably would agree that "Basket Case" and "Longview" are indeed legitimate "punk" songs in both sound and attitude. In fact, IMO there probably isn't much else recorded after 1987 or so that would qualify...

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Blank. Jacob Sartorius Join Date: May 2016 Location: Dank memes Posts: 4,034	Yeah, but most songs after Dookie I think move into alternative territory.

06-23-2016, 10:48 AM	#39 (permalink)
Blank. Jacob Sartorius Join Date: May 2016 Location: Dank memes Posts: 4,034	I'm going to assume frownland is making a point. And I agree with him completely. You can't not call it something just cause you don't like it.