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Old 06-22-2016, 10:32 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Green Day were always major label darlings meant to sell 10+ year old music to mainstream teenagers

The slickest production money can buy and guitar tones meant to fill $60 a ticket arenas not your local scene's dive bar it's all the antithesis of punk but somehow people think they fit the genre because power chords


Sorry but songs like this say you're wrong. This isn't the most punk track ever, but to say it's not punk is ludicrous. In my opinion this proves Occukthawk right.
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Old 06-22-2016, 10:59 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I made this point earlier but coming to age at Gilman wasn't just punk it was the definitive punk at the time. MRR and all that. Any other claims are false revisionism.
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:15 AM   #33 (permalink)
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The releases by green day on lookout! was 90's punk. It's the material after that when they move away from punk.
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Old 06-22-2016, 12:05 PM   #34 (permalink)
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It's not even that I don't like Green Day it's just when you make them out to be something they really never were you're doing both them and Punk a disservice
To be fair, Green Day have always done a disservice to the music industry, whether it was toward punk or not.
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Old 06-23-2016, 09:44 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Anyone who isn't a genre-definition purist probably would agree that "Basket Case" and "Longview" are indeed legitimate "punk" songs in both sound and attitude. In fact, IMO there probably isn't much else recorded after 1987 or so that would qualify...
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Yeah, but most songs after Dookie I think move into alternative territory.
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:18 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Anyone who isn't a genre-definition purist probably would agree that "Basket Case" and "Longview" are indeed legitimate "punk" songs in both sound and attitude. In fact, IMO there probably isn't much else recorded after 1987 or so that would qualify...
I would respect that date more if you went ahead and said '76.
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:30 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Nickelback isn't rock either because I like rock so they are not rock.
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:48 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I'm going to assume frownland is making a point. And I agree with him completely. You can't not call it something just cause you don't like it.
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Old 06-23-2016, 11:01 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I'm going to assume frownland is making a point. And I agree with him completely. You can't not call it something just cause you don't like it.
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