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Talib Kweli – Music at Last.fm

3 for 3. They tour together, they are featured heavily on each other songs. To say they aren't similar is now beyond stupid, since three of your are doing it.

Look at Kanye West's behavior and lyrics and ask yourself if Kweli would ever act that way or sing those pathetic lyrics.

Kanye West lyrics | LyricsMode.com

They are as similar as the Beatles and The Monkees.

That link speaks for itself

Kanye is just like Kweli and lil Wayne and DMX right?

"Guerilla monsoon rap all tha shorties like who dat? got tha whole crowd like how ya do that? nigga you, get slapped till ya blue black and ya crew, give me dat like tru dat"

those are some kweli lyrics

"Its gonna take a lot more coupons to get us saved, like it takes a lot more than du-rags to get us made. But whats sad is that day my girls father passed away so I promise to Mr. Raney I'm gonna marry your daughter and you know I've got to thank you for the way that she was brought up, and I know that you were smilin when you seen the car I bought her, and you sent tears from heaven when you seen my car get balled up"

those are some kanye lyrics.

you can cherry pick anything to make a point. the fact is that kanye and kweli are uncannily similar.

What a dumb thread.

You're beyond repair my friend. No wonder you like Kanye West.

So, are you saying those aren't Talib Kweli lyrics? And those aren't Kanye lyrics?

^Is that the type of post you resort to when you can't actually make a good reply?

your completely out of line. thats one of the most dip **** things i have heard about music in a long time, if not ever.

whether you like or dislike jackhammer try doing it in a non offensive way, he didn't try taking cheap shots at you but explaining himself instead. i think i speak for many people on this forum when i say that jackhammers opinion is respected, appreciated, and more often than not right.

boo f*cking hoo.

To say metal is screeching music is more ignorant.

maybe so. I'm not claiming it isn't.

All I am saying is if those are the best example of thoughtful Kanye lyrics you can come up with, you don't understand what makes Kweli, what he is. This is a stupid argument, you want to know how I know they are not similar; One is outstanding and I always want to hear and the other I am totally apathetic about. That's as different as it gets.

those aren't the most thoughtful Kanye lyrics I can think of, and those aren't the dumbest Kweli lyrics I can think of.

You simply write Kanye off for being mainstream, when in fact you should be congratulating him for being able to create the type of music that Common and Kweli make, and still burst into the gangsta-rap laden mainstream.

Yes but to be fair stating someone is ignorant and wrong for saying that, yet you said that about metal makes you a hypocrite. Don't complain about others judgement if you yourself are judging things unfairly.

The difference is, JayJamJay honestly believes that his opinion isn't ignorant.
I'm open, and even accepting to the accusation that my opinion on metal is ignorant.

You don't get it, it's not the same. Not even close. One is a thoughtful insightful commentary on society and history and the other is a barley literate self absorbed putz spewing cliches that occasionally rhyme.

And remember what this thread is about, his behavior which is about the only thing more abhorrent then his music.

"Geurilla Monsoon Rap" is considered social commentary, but "Jesus Walks" is barely literate cliche?

I think this clearly proves that listen to Zeppelin-loving old mens opinions on rap music is futile.

These are the lyrics to Kanye West's Jesus Walks...

Yo, We at war
We at war with terrorism, racism but most of all we at war with ourselves
(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the Devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks with me) with me with me with me [fades]

You know what the Midwest is?
Young & Restless
Where restless Niggaz might snatch your necklace
And next these Niggaz might jack your Lexus
Somebody tell these Niggaz who Kanye West is
I walk through the valley of Chi where death is
Top floor the view alone will leave you breathless Uhhhh!
Try to catch it Uhhhh! It's kinda hard hard
Getting choked by the detectives yeah yeah now check the method
They be asking us questions, harass and arrest us
Saying "we eat pieces of **** like you for breakfast"
Huh? Yall eat pieces of ****? What's the basis?
We ain't going nowhere but got suits and cases
A trunk full of coke rental car from Avis
My momma used to say only Jesus can save us
Well momma I know I act a fool
But I'll be gone til November I got packs to move I Hope

[HOOK x2]
(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the Devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks with me)
The only thing that I pray is that me feet don't fail me now
(Jesus Walks)
And I don't think there is nothing I can do now to right my wrongs
(Jesus Walks with me)
I want to talk to God but I'm afraid because we ain't spoke in so long

To the hustlas, killers, murderers, drug dealers even the strippers
To the victims of Welfare for we living in hell here hell yeah
Now hear ye hear ye want to see Thee more clearly
I know he hear me when my feet get weary
Cuz we're the almost nearly extinct
We rappers are role models we rap we don't think
I ain't here to argue about his facial features
But here to convert atheists into believers
I'm just trying to say the way school need teachers
The way Kathie Lee needed Regis that's the way yall need Jesus
So here go my single dog radio needs this
They say you can rap about anything except for Jesus
That means guns, sex, lies, video tapes
But if I talk about God my record won't get played Huh?
Well let this take away from my spins
Which will probably take away from my ends
Then I hope this take away from my sins
And bring the day that I'm dreaming about
Next time I'm in the club everybody screaming out

(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks)
The only thing that I pray is that me feet don't fail me now

That is so Chalked full of retarded cliches and 3rd grade play ground quality rhyme schemes I am speechless. Nothing thoughtful or interesting here it's not even a cohesive thought.

Listen, he sucks bottom line, if you enjoy him fine, but he is terrible.

Also Guerrilla monsoon rap is a compilation track with a few other rappers (Black Thought and someone else) not intended to do anything other then entertain and it has considerably better lines then the one you cited, which is by the way the hook not actual lyrics. And it's produced by Kanye West I believe.

Mikey...you've been here long enough to know better than to insult a person in this manner.

3 day ban.

this doesnt sound like mikey...

when did mikey start liking rap?

and hating metal?

I've been listening to rap music since before you were born more then likely, I've been there from the start. I own thousands of hip-hop albums, don't come to me if you want an expert but I got plenty of thoughts on every subject related to music.

I think it's I get high sometimes in disguise.

yeah...it is*

Back on topic please.

Thanks Right Track!

Not sure the ban was needed, but thats why you get paid the big bucks!

^ Good call by the way.

You were right about i get high sometimes.

Are you serious?

I was joking, I didn't know that was possible.

He argued just like he always does, but I didn't know you could steal ID's.

You can't. He was posting with his own IP, using Mamagarmr's account.

You're such a fool ButtheadBill, If somebody doesn't agree with your false claims of Kanye's greatness, they're apparently ignorant, everytime.
You should really grow up and go away.

and I think Kanye is a pretty damn poor "musician" by the way. A pathetic human being and a racist moron.:wave:

I really don't understand the following of Kanye. He started out as a decent rapper who surprisingly managed to get good radio-airplay. Then as soon as he starts talking about Jesus it seems "he's the black voice of the youth". I appreciate him being one of the few rappers left who has decent production, especially when more and more rappers are going for small little ring-tone beats.

But his lyrics just arent there...

When i hear him on the radio I enjoy him, but not enough to care for him or even start to think of comparing him to Common.

you cant tell me nuthin >: [

Yeah I agree, Kanye is decent for a mainstream rapper. He may even be the best mainstream rapper around right now, but when you're competition is stuff like Eminem, Chingy, and 50 cent thats really not saying anything at all. Anyway Kanye is an idiot, and I don't understand whats with his following either.

Eminem>>>Kanye West.

wanna explain?

He's one of the greatest horror writers of our time. Seriously. He has a sick twisted, brilliant imagination.

Now I'm gonna make you dance
It's your chance
Yeah boy shake that ass,
Woops i mean girl, girl girl girl girl
You know you're my world
Alright now lose it


lol

oh my god

THE COMPLEXITY OF HIS LYRICS!

I'll admit that he's inconsistent, but you can't say he doesn't make amazing songs. Stan is one of the most frightening songs I've ever heard.

deep

Stan is a crappy sob story, the only thing good about it is Dido.

Psshh, the chorus is brilliant but so is the rest of the song.

My tea's gone cold I'm wondering why I..
got out of bed at all
The morning rain clouds up my window..
and I can't see at all
And even if I could it'll all be gray,
but your picture on my wall
It reminds me, that it's not so bad,
it's not so bad..

1st Chorus: volume gradually grows over raindrop background
2nd Chorus: full volume with beat right after "thunder" noise

[Eminem as 'Stan']
Dear Slim, I wrote but you still ain't callin
I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not-a got 'em
There probably was a problem at the post office or somethin
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em
but anyways; **** it, what's been up? Man how's your daughter?
My girlfriend's pregnant too, I'm bout to be a father
If I have a daughter, guess what I'ma call her?
I'ma name her Bonnie
I read about your Uncle Ronnie too I'm sorry
I had a friend kill himself over some bitch who didn't want him
I know you probably hear this everyday, but I'm your biggest fan
I even got the underground **** that you did with Skam
I got a room full of your posters and your pictures man
I like the **** you did with Rawkus too, that **** was fat
Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back,
just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan
This is Stan

{Chorus: Dido}

[Eminem as 'Stan']
Dear Slim, you still ain't called or wrote, I hope you have a chance
I ain't mad - I just think it's ****ED UP you don't answer fans
If you didn't wanna talk to me outside your concert
you didn't have to, but you coulda signed an autograph for Matthew
That's my little brother man, he's only six years old
We waited in the blistering cold for you,
four hours and you just said, "No."
That's pretty ****ty man - you're like his ****in idol
He wants to be just like you man, he likes you more than I do
I ain't that mad though, I just don't like bein lied to
Remember when we met in Denver - you said if I'd write you
you would write back - see I'm just like you in a way
I never knew my father neither;
he used to always cheat on my mom and beat her
I can relate to what you're saying in your songs
so when I have a ****ty day, I drift away and put 'em on
cause I don't really got **** else so that **** helps when I'm depressed
I even got a tattoo of your name across the chest
Sometimes I even cut myself to see how much it bleeds
It's like adrenaline, the pain is such a sudden rush for me
See everything you say is real, and I respect you cause you tell it
My girlfriend's jealous cause I talk about you 24/7
But she don't know you like I know you Slim, no one does
She don't know what it was like for people like us growin up
You gotta call me man, I'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose
Sincerely yours, Stan -- P.S.
We should be together too

{Chorus: Dido}

[Eminem as 'Stan']
Dear Mister-I'm-Too-Good-To-Call-Or-Write-My-Fans,
this'll be the last package I ever send your ass
It's been six months and still no word - I don't deserve it?
I know you got my last two letters;
I wrote the addresses on 'em perfect
So this is my cassette I'm sending you, I hope you hear it
I'm in the car right now, I'm doing 90 on the freeway
Hey Slim, I drank a fifth of vodka, you dare me to drive?
You know the song by Phil Collins, "In the Air of the Night"
about that guy who coulda saved that other guy from drowning
but didn't, then Phil saw it all, then at a a show he found him?
That's kinda how this is, you coulda rescued me from drowning
Now it's too late - I'm on a 1000 downers now, I'm drowsy
and all I wanted was a lousy letter or a call
I hope you know I ripped +ALL+ of your pictures off the wall
I love you Slim, we coulda been together, think about it
You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream I hope you can't sleep and you SCREAM about it
I hope your conscience EATS AT YOU and you can't BREATHE without me
See Slim; {*screaming*} Shut up bitch! I'm tryin to talk!
Hey Slim, that's my girlfriend screamin in the trunk
but I didn't slit her throat, I just tied her up, see I ain't like you
cause if she suffocates she'll suffer more, and then she'll die too
Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the bridge now
Oh ****, I forgot, how'm I supposed to send this **** out?
{*car tires squeal*} {*CRASH*}
.. {*brief silence*} .. {*LOUD splash*}

{Chorus: Dido}

[Eminem]
Dear Stan, I meant to write you sooner but I just been busy
You said your girlfriend's pregnant now, how far along is she?
Look, I'm really flattered you would call your daughter that
and here's an autograph for your brother,
I wrote it on the Starter cap
I'm sorry I didn't see you at the show, I musta missed you
Don't think I did that **** intentionally just to diss you
But what's this **** you said about you like to cut your wrists too?
I say that **** just clownin dogg,
c'mon - how ****ed up is you?
You got some issues Stan, I think you need some counseling
to help your ass from bouncing off the walls when you get down some
And what's this **** about us meant to be together?
That type of ****'ll make me not want us to meet each other
I really think you and your girlfriend need each other
or maybe you just need to treat her better
I hope you get to read this letter, I just hope it reaches you in time
before you hurt yourself, I think that you'll be doin just fine
if you relax a little, I'm glad I inspire you but Stan
why are you so mad? Try to understand, that I do want you as a fan
I just don't want you to do some crazy ****
I seen this one **** on the news a couple weeks ago that made me sick
Some dude was drunk and drove his car over a bridge
and had his girlfriend in the trunk, and she was pregnant with his kid
and in the car they found a tape, but they didn't say who it was to
Come to think about, his name was.. it was you
Damn!

He certainly doesn't deserve the critical hype he gets though.