I'm not so sure about that. So many people, and I don't just mean in MB, type it incorrectly and still think they are right.

Well i must have not come into contact or just never noticed.maybe thats why in one of his songs it says "some of my plastics still say Kayne" mind you im not sure what he means by plastics

Except flow and consistantly good lyrics.

Plastics means fake. Basically people jumping on the bandwagon. I'm sure most of the people who enjoy Kanye West's songs are non-rap fans, and I'm thinking the same for most of the people on this thread. Whenever I hear anyone say they like Kanye West I immediately think 12 year old girl who shakes her undeveloped booty to Goldigger. But as a rap fan, I can say in all honesty that Kanye West rates as one of the best rappers to come out in recent years, and is climbing up the ranks on my list of greatest rappers. His beats are fantastic and nearly all the songs on both his albums are solid gold. He listens to the people and gives them what they want, such as getting rid of all the skits that plagued his first album and piling on the tunes in the second. Sure his lyrics may not be top of the list, but it's refreshing to see a rapper stay away from tales of the ghetto and guns. It's nice to see a rapper with his own style, own opinions and own issues to talk about, rather that another same old 'I been shot 17 times nigga and I'm still a pimp, I'll fuk ya ho' sh*t that goes on today.

yeah, except there are rappers who stay away from lyrics talking about guns, violence, bragging about money and how many women they can get, and yet are actually talented lyricists, which is MUCH more than can be said about kanye west. His lyrics are rediculous, his flow is horrible. The only redeeming quality he has is that his songs are well produced. However, ALOT of more underground rappers have really good lyrics, that actually have meaning, great flow, and amazing production. Kanye west is more image than talent, he markets his music and he does it well, but he's no different really than any other mainstream rapper out there right now. He's created an image and his success is a result of that image.

Does it look like I care?

And you think I do that?

Get over yourself. Not everything is about you. It was a comment in general about how a lot of people refer to Kanye as Kayne. If I was typing someone's name incorrectly I would appreciate it when someone let me know and I wouldn't get so defensive.

Bingo!

I agree, Kanye is more image than talent, but when both are so fantastic then it's not really a problem. I agree there are better rappers out there, but Kanye is still brilliant. You say he doesn't have much talent? Well being a top class producer is a talent. His best quality isn't his lyrics I agree, but when a guy has a flow so good and production so good then it makes it hard to care. Rap's about 2 primary things-the lyrics and the beats. Kanye's already got one nailed, and he's pretty good at the other one too. He's had 2 fantastic albums and he's still young-he's got plenty of time to improve.