I listen to Dre for his rapping. He has such a commanding presence to me. Never been super into his beats.

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All the 3 are actually great rappers. But in terms of rapping ability and performance I'd say Ice Cube is the best out of the 3. Eazy-E died and Dr. Dre doesnt really release anything new anymore, so.

Me having voted for the fourth option a while back shows how my ignorance has changed about rap, but Dre for sure, all of his collaborations end up being the tightest thing I ever heard, Ice solo is pretty good too.

What did you guys think of Eazy's debut album?

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But I was being serious.

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They're laughing at you though. Because Dre's rapping sucks compared to his production. He's just not a very good rapper.

I know they are (maybe assuming I was joking) and I never said he was a great rapper, but I do enjoy his rapping at times. Not a massive "golden age" or "west coast" Hip Hop fan and his beats are not really that interesting for me. Certain tracks are nice of course.

Yeah, I assumed you were joking.

For the record, I don't hate Dre's rapping. I think it works fine in the context of his songs, it's just not the stand-out attribute of his music for me.

It's okay, you can say 'G-Funk' :)
Honestly, I don't really know much about his production beyond the really popular albums from the early-mid 90s. Perhaps it became stale. But his OG G-Funk is the G-Funkiest.
You didn't say Dre is a great rapper but you did say he had a commanding presence. I guess I can see that but Ice Cube commands him into the ground.

I never listen to him to be honest, but you know who it is when he is on the mic. His verse on "Forgot About Dre" is a stand out for me. He doesn't write his own stuff and it's not exactly inspirational, but there's something about his voice that I love.

Seems weird to me as well that Dre is criticized for his rap, some of the best NWA songs have a younger Dre at the mic, he kills some of his newer songs, but yeah his beats are better.

I love the Chronic but I find myself always throwing on Cube or Eazy more on a regular basis. I think Cube and Eazy just have more distinguished voices and I like the way they lay it down. I will always have love for The Chronic though, hell of an album.

If only Dr Dre had released more than just 2 albums, and not let Snoop Dogg rap on half of The Chronic, I'd listen to him much more often.

Eazy M'fin E! **** Dre, with his studio gangster bull**** ;)

You do realize that Eazy E had multiple ghostwriters right? ;)

but he was for rella gangsta

Eazy E was a pretty good businessman, cooperating with Jerry Heller to form his own record label and all. He also had charisma and a unique voice, but I wouldn't call him a top rapper. A "rella gangsta", maybe. ;)

I meant more in the sense that he was the only one who had any hand in the drug trade seriously, a lot of his money from that financed NWA from what i've heard. He may have become so shrewd by being in that dirty dirty bisness. Definitely not a top rapper persay, but as far as charisma guys go he's up there. I've never been too into EZ though.

Oh yeah, that's true. You're right, he has a lot of charisma and that halfway makes up for his lack of skills as a lyricist. What did you think about his debut album?

The only album I actually ever owned by him was a greatest hits, which I didn't listen to a whoole lot once I didn't hear "Boyz in the Hood." I should check it out though.

Yeah you should, you should also check out "Eazy Duz It". A lot of folks love the album and I think it's definitely worth at least checking out.

^What qualifies as a "real" rapper in your opinion?

Real rapper:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Cube_2012.jpg

Not real rapper:
http://blogs-images.forbes.com/carol...eorgeLucas.jpg

lol, did you ban the guy Janz?

Wasn't me! I don't know what happened.

Hate it when spammers are banned and you've been talking to them. Makes it look like you're talking to yourself.

that's why you don't quote/talk to someone that looks like they might be a spammer.

Now, in what area are we talking here....

Lyrically...Ice Cube is wayy better than them both. Dre is ok, he just makes bad ass beats.

Eazy E...well, they ghost wrote for him, beyond that...he wasn't spectacular.

I have to agree with this. Eazy-E and Dr. Dre didn't for the most part have great lyrics. Especially Dre.

I love all of NWA. I love Eazy and Ice Cube. Dre is a great producer.

I think Ice Cube is the best overall. His delivery is amazing and he was a good lyrist. Dre was/is a good producer but he only has one really good album (solo wise). Cube has stronger material.

You didn't like 2001? I thought that was Dre's peak production wise. It's such a beautiful album.

I agree...2001, in terms of production...was stellar. Some of the best beats ever assembled. Dude just has an amazing ability to make rap music.

Definitely, it's just too bad there wasn't more Snoop/Em on the album and less Hittman.

At that point...yes, when Em was in his prime. Too bad his quality took a nose dive.

What do you think is Em's worst album? "Encore"?

Ooh yea, mos def. Slim Shady and Marshal Mathers were superb. The two that followed just went downhill, and Encore was just booty.

Hm, a lot of people LOVE Eminem Show. I don't mind it but "Drips" alone makes it worse than his last two.

I listened to 2001 recently. Quite good.