Today's Rap, 90's, or 80's Rap

TheBig3 · 07-19-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Haha. I don't think he's getting boring, I think he's staying as boring as he's always been.

We can argue quality all day, but Blueprint 3 had nothing like "H to the Izzo" on it which is when I couldn't stand him. I think he's gotten really good lately. Even Kingdom Come had some great songs on it.

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I guess I agree that longevity is less common in hip-hop to a certain extent but there are some longtimers that are still pretty big. The Roots are another one that come to mind.

The Roots are a tough sell though because you never hear them in most rap outfits. Their off on their own in Indie land. You might get them at younger, savvier rap venues like Rock the Bells, but **** like Summer Jam likely won't feature them.

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Yeah, that's the kind of hip-hop I listen to but I keep thinking there has to be something else out there that's as good and new.

A movement will come. How long did we endure post-grunge before we were saved. Give it time, I say.

**Janszoon** · 07-19-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jibber

In my opinion the best stuff right now is from artists who came out and established themselves in the 90's and are continuing to produce new stuff today. I agree with Janszoon in that a lot of the stuff from artists who really only came out in the 00's sounds very similar and isn't all that inspired. The song that Big3 posted, while not bad, was just too pop-y for me. Too many artists have experimented with the same sounds and influences before, and it's just nothing new or innovative. Having said that, there are a few artists who really only came into their own in the 00's that I continually follow and really enjoy.

DL incognito (started 1998, this song from 2008 album)

YouTube - DL Incognito - Out Of The Box

Zion I (started first album in 2000)

YouTube - Zion I -"Fingerpaint"

YouTube - Zion I-Mind Blow

EDIT: youtube videos don't work when I try to embed them (I think because of the ban here). I don't have a little box to check in the advanced mode, what SHOULD be the "wrap youtube tags" box is just a question mark for me, and typing them out myself doesn't work either.

That DL incognito song sounds pretty good! I'll have to check out some more.

I own one album by Zion I that's a collaboration they did with the Grouch. It's decent but I wasn't really blown away by it. Some of it, unfortunately, indulges in some of the worst aspects of pop-rap. Is there any other album by them that you'd recommend?

**Janszoon** · 07-19-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

We can argue quality all day, but Blueprint 3 had nothing like "H to the Izzo" on it which is when I couldn't stand him. I think he's gotten really good lately. Even Kingdom Come had some great songs on it.

See, I never heard a Jay-Z song, old or new, that doesn't bore the pants off me and he's someone I've given a lot of chances.

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

A movement will come. How long did we endure post-grunge before we were saved. Give it time, I say.

Thing is I never felt like I was enduring post-grunge because there was so much other rock music at the time that was really, really good. That's why I figure there must be some terrific new hip-hop that I just haven't found yet.

TheBig3 · 07-19-2010, 09:52 AM

Well the business models are pretty different. Underground, trying-to-make-it rappers still went to labels.

No ones taking risks anymore.

midnight rain · 07-19-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

That DL incognito song sounds pretty good! I'll have to check out some more.

I own one album by Zion I that's a collaboration they did with the Grouch. It's decent but I wasn't really blown away by it. Some of it, unfortunately, indulges in some of the worst aspects of pop-rap. Is there any other album by them that you'd recommend?

You heard the latest by Antipop Consortium? You might like it:

**Janszoon** · 07-19-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

You heard the latest by Antipop Consortium? You might like it:

Not bad. How's the rest of the album?

midnight rain · 07-19-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Not bad. How's the rest of the album?

I dig it.

nolvorite · 07-19-2010, 10:40 AM

early 90's hip hop > late 90's hip hop

**Janszoon** · 07-19-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nolvorite

early 90's hip hop > late 90's hip hop

early 90's hip hop = late 90's hip hop

CanwllCorfe · 07-19-2010, 02:04 PM

I'm gonna go with the 90s. I loved the 90s.

View Poll Results: today's rap, 90's, or 80's rap?
today's rap	21	26.25%
90's rap/hip hop	47	58.75%
80's rap	8	10.00%
NONE DANG IT	4	5.00%
Voters: 80. You may not vote on this poll

07-19-2010, 09:52 AM	#44 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Well the business models are pretty different. Underground, trying-to-make-it rappers still went to labels. No ones taking risks anymore. __________________ I've moved to a new address

07-19-2010, 02:04 PM	#50 (permalink)
CanwllCorfe Quiet Man in the Corner Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pocono Mountains Posts: 2,480	I'm gonna go with the 90s. I loved the 90s. __________________ Your eyes were never yet let in to see the majesty and riches of the mind, but dwell in darkness; for your God is blind.

07-19-2010, 10:40 AM	#48 (permalink)
nolvorite Music Addict Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USVI Posts: 88	early 90's hip hop > late 90's hip hop