Kanye West's "Power" track is good!

i saw this picture of the hologram tupac at coachella and theyve photoshopped kanye in the side saying, "ayo hologram tupac! imma let u finish, but obe won kanobe was the greatest hologram of all time" hilarious.

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Found it.

I gave Dark Fantasy another listen, and I really wouldn't consider it best of '11 or Hip Hop. It's great for a few songs, but I think the concept doesn't hold up, or is a lot shallower than it aims to be. Either way, it's not a perfect album, as some have considered it, but it is pretty damn good.

that's all.

I don't think i would consider it the best of '11 either , but it was one of the best and I think it will stand out as one of the better kanye albums. Hs production on that shit was pretty damn solid.

Kanye west is good but... he's still a "gay fish"

I love kanye west and his songs.
I really like his work.

The production is pretty impeccable, no doubt. But so was Lady Gaga's last effort, and i wouldn't consider it the best of the year, though i did enjoy it.

Haha this is SO funny. I personally love Kanye. I find him to be a better producer than rapper though.

He really does a sense of good instrumentation as well, the album cycle through different albums with a sense of knowing, unlike a lot of contemporary hip hop albums.

and yeah, production is blinding, but that is rarely a good indication of a worthwhile album.

i dont like this guy (kanye west) he seems like a proper d-bag

who gives a ****? most musicians are. Kanye's earned the right to act the way he does.

I definitely don't think anybody has a right to act like a total fucker, but that doesn't mean he isn't damn talented.

If you release a lot of crappy music you earn the right to act like an idiot? I suppose I could see how the two go hand in hand.

your opinion is wrong.
West is the gold standard and you would do well to be more like him.

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It was a strange response. But I do agree that Kanye is talented and makes some great music.

I've never heard anything by him that I would describe as even remotely interesting. Which music of his would you consider great?

do you like any of those at all?

I would describe all of them as just okay. None of them are horrible but none of them are anything special either. I did like the high vocal loop in the first one though.

I used "great" in a loose sense to be honest. I enjoy his first two albums a lot, more for the production than anything else.

I can't even really get into his production (from what I've heard at least). I find it just... competent. I mean everything is very professional sounding and whatnot, but there's nothing distinct or special about it to me.

"Touch the Sky" and "All Falls Down" are probably my favourites, as well as "Heard Em Say".

I just gave a listen to these three. "Touch the Sky" and "Heard Em Say" were sort of okay I guess, nothing I'd particularly want to go back and listen to again and again, though the outro on "Heard Em Say" was kind of nice. "All Falls Down", I'm sorry to say, I thought was awful.

I don't mind. Like what you want :)

I don't even rate Kanye that highly, I just find his music easy to listen to and enjoy in a very cheap way.

I can't even get there with him. He doesn't seem to click with me on any level, not even on a catchy, gets-stuck-in-my-head level. I got a hold of My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy a couple weeks ago in an attempt to give him another try, listened to it several times, and literally can't remember what a single song on it sounds like.

I listened to Late Registration last night. Two words. **** me. I can't believe it took me this long to listen to it.

Completely agree on that album.

How? Explain how anyone can dislike that album?

I dislike it because every aspect of it, from the songwriting to the production, is boring and forgettable. I've given it a few listens in an attempt to understand what so many people are raving about, and each time has been a very tedious listening experience.

^ What he said.

I find the production to be incredible. The songwriting is pretentious but what can you expect from Kanye? I still like it though. I respect the opinion also. Any Kanye album you actually like?

My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and The College Dropout are the only ones I've heard and I didn't like either of them. I'd be willing to check another one out if you have another suggestion though.

Out of curiosity, what is it that you like about the production on MBDTF?

Late Registration is probably his best.

In regards to MBDTF, from the beginning line 'Can We Get Much Higher' I was hooked.
I think you guys are telling porkies if you are saying it's a forgettable album.
Awesome production, and well placed guest slots make each track compelling to me at least.
From the up-tempo All Of The Lights with it's accompanying prelude to the r'n'b sing-song hook on 'Blame Game' and who could forget 'I'm a mutha****ing monstaaa' or the over-the-top chanting and echoing in Power.

I think some people set out with the intentions of disliking Kanye, or perhaps mainstream music in general. Before I came to MB, I was one of those people who would dismiss music I didn't think I'd like before giving it a chance, honestly, it wouldn't matter to me if a million people said this record was a piece of ****, I know in my mind it's ****ing awesome.

I'll check it out. Thanks! :)

Not sure what a porkie is but I can definitely tell you I don't find the tracks on MBDTF memorable. I listened to the first couple songs yet again a couple hours ago as a result of this conversation and still can't remember what any of them sound like.

I can assure you that's not the case for me. That album (and Kanye in general) has received such universal praise that I keep thinking there must be something of value there, but despite my continued listening I just don't hear it.

To me, the samples he uses is amazing. He used a King Crimson sample for Power. King Crimson! Plus Kanye knows what he's doing. A lot of rappers today have no clue what they're doing.

Janz listen to it all the way through just to be sure. If you don't like the beats your talking down on the likes of RZa, Q-Tip and others

The album has a lot of ranges/colors musically, yet still has a cohesiveness that feels like Kanye(as oppose to say a Lupe album that feels devoid of anything) The first single was a King Crimson flip, pretty distinguishable sound when his contemporaries are pleased to regurgitate monolithic bass with occasional snare.

I like Kanye's cadence. I find it amusing when he says "tell peta my mink is draggin on the floor", others find it idiotic. His sound is always original and dramatically different with each release.

He is slightly overrated as a producer. All of his beats follow a similar pattern and usually dependent on a blatant vocal sample but still.

edit:me and slow groove just said the same thing pretty much

I like Kanye as I have said, but after around three listens I genuinely can't remember any song on the album other than "All of the lights" which I don't care for.

I have, several times.

I've always been kind of lukewarm on RZA so if he was involved it's not surprising the album wouldn't grab me. I do like Q-Tip though. Based on a quick look at Wikipedia it sounds like he was more involved in a critiquing process than directly working on the album though.

Thanks for taking the time to really articulate what you like about the album. I don't necessarily agree with your assessment (except the comment about his beats), but still it's interesting to hear. :)