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Old 11-24-2012, 11:39 AM   #91 (permalink)
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I know what ghost writing is smh.

It's widely speculated Lupe wrote for Jay-Z, I don't know if it is true (hence why I asked), it wouldn't surprise me at all if it is true though.

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Either way, the Black Album is still overrated.

As for the video, there's paying tribute to another rapper then there's biting.
Lets look at this quote shall we?

first he states he owns a music company that has worked with Jay Z, which handles the "production to consultation to track-brokering, management"
I'm not saying it's beyond the realm of possibility that lupe ghostwrote for Jay Z, but the quote doesn't provide any evidence for it.

I agree Jay Z "bites" (which is why i said plagiarism, and if you think your favorite rapper hasn't done it either-your wrong)

Haven't ever listened to the black album (only remixes) or any Jay Z album at all, so I'm not going to speak for his talent.


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Here are the writer credits for "what more can i say"
shawn carter(jay z)
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Old 11-24-2012, 12:02 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Lets look at this quote shall we?

first he states he owns a music company that has worked with Jay Z, which handles the "production to consultation to track-brokering, management"
I'm not saying it's beyond the realm of possibility that lupe ghostwrote for Jay Z, but the quote doesn't provide any evidence for it.

I agree Jay Z "bites" (which is why i said plagiarism, and if you think your favorite rapper hasn't done it either-your wrong)

Haven't ever listened to the black album (only remixes) or any Jay Z album at all, so I'm not going to speak for his talent.


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Here are the writer credits for "what more can i say"
shawn carter(jay z)
thomas bell
roland chambers
The quote doesn't provide 100% evidence no, but it also means it's not beyond the realms of possibility. He admitted he worked with him on the Black Album, it's widely speculated he wrote on it. I think he did. We will never know.

I already knew Lupe wasn't credited for it, that doesn't mean anything.

Can someone find the credits for Return to the 36 Chambers? I'm pretty sure ODB was credited as writing all the tracks yet it's also widely speculated that other Wu members wrote his lyrics.

EDIT - And I disagree with your comment on plagiarism, once or twice, yeah. Jay-Z has done it far too much. He's a fraud.
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Old 11-24-2012, 12:35 PM   #93 (permalink)
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The quote doesn't provide 100% evidence no, but it also means it's not beyond the realms of possibility. He admitted he worked with him on the Black Album, it's widely speculated he wrote on it. I think he did. We will never know.
True, but I'll go with the album credits until otherwise. It's not like other writers aren't listed, just none of them named Lupe Fiasco.

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Can someone find the credits for Return to the 36 Chambers? I'm pretty sure ODB was credited as writing all the tracks yet it's also widely speculated that other Wu members wrote his lyrics.

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Your saying the other wu members came up with the incoherent rambles of odb?

They had to write the following lyrics for him?

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Tired of sittin' on my ****in' ass
Niggaz I know, be runnin' around with mad ****in' cash
Who the **** K wanna be an MC
If you can't get paid, to be a ****in' MC?

I came out my momma pussy, I'm on welfare
Twenty six years old, still on welfare, so I gotta get paid fully
Whether it's truthfully or untruthfully
With my Boston bloodthirsty process
Sure, not beyond realm of possibility, and we will never know. By all means I'm not one to squash a conspiracy
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Old 11-24-2012, 03:11 PM   #94 (permalink)
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ODB was a lazy bastard, I've seen an interview where he says RZA used to fight him to rhyme because he couldn't be bothered.

I can definitely believe other members wrote for him. Not all of his lyrics, but some of them, and they probably weren't credited for them.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:30 AM   #95 (permalink)
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^Which member in particular do you think did most of ODB's writing? RZA? GZA?

Also, what did you think of ODB's second album N***A Please?
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^Which member in particular do you think did most of ODB's writing? RZA? GZA?

Also, what did you think of ODB's second album N***A Please?
Dunno, but I have spoke to a producer who has done work with Wu affiliates and he said the same. I'm pretty certain he did have things written for him.

Was Ice Cube credited for Eazy E's album?

And I haven't heard ODB's second album mate.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:24 AM   #97 (permalink)
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^You should listen to it mate, interested to hear what you'd think of it.

Why did Ice Cube write solo stuff for Easy-E anyway? I thought after the dissolution of NWA they were strict rivals?
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:46 AM   #98 (permalink)
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^You should listen to it mate, interested to hear what you'd think of it.

Why did Ice Cube write solo stuff for Easy-E anyway? I thought after the dissolution of NWA they were strict rivals?
Dunno why, but

Eazy-E - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Several members of N.W.A wrote lyrics for Eazy-Duz-It: Ice Cube, The D.O.C., and MC Ren.
List of writers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eazy-Duz-It#Track_listing

ODB and Eazy-E's situation isn't too different imo. Both ODB and Eazy-E had charisma coming out of their ears and were definitely unique, but not so good or skilled at rapping, so crew members helped them out and wrote some of their lyrics. Which is why I wouldn't put it past Jay-Z to have someone write for him.

The only track I've heard from the 2nd album is the Neptunes one mate.
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I understand now, Easy's debut was released a year before Ice Cube left NWA, that's why he wrote a lot of lyrics for him.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:27 AM   #100 (permalink)
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Nas. This shouldn't even be a discussion.
Well, Jay-Z IS better than Nas in several aspects pretty much indisputably.
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