Kendrick Lamar on Big Sean's "Control" and Hip Hop Universe Goes Crazy

FrigginParadox · 08-13-2013, 11:34 AM

i think he did mention Big Sean cus he was in the song lol. ALSO one thing people gotta realize is that Kendrick is pretty much at his prime position or reaching it. Dude has been rapping at least since he was 16 and he blew up when he was like 24 and he is 26 now. He has been rapping probably before the age of 16 but either way he has about ten years of practice verses most of the new people he mentioned who are either still youngins or have been rapping for a shorter time(including the time they blew up). I think the natrual talent kendrick has plus the years of practice is a huge factor for his undeniable skill in my opinion. just a thought. and if you think about it it's the same situation with Kritt, he just hasnt had a breakout album yet, he is pretty much at the overly dedicated stage kendrick was in

FrigginParadox · 08-13-2013, 11:38 AM

oh and same with electronica dude is like 36 lol

14232949 · 08-13-2013, 11:58 AM

I find it quite interesting the names that Kendrick decided to omit. If we're talking those who rose to prominence around the same time then Danny Brown is a glaring omission. Could it be that Kendrick considers D Brown to be a threat to the metaphorical crown he's placed on his head.

He also neglected to call out any of his Black Hippy crew which I find interesting, he was obviously trying to stir the pot but instead of taking rappers he's obviously more talented than I.E. Ab-Soul, Jack Rock, Schoolboy Q he just didn't mention them because of their friendship, which in the basis of the song is somewhat hypocritical as K.Dot's obviously calling out the guys he believes he's above.

I tell you though, just wait for Big K.R.I.T to drop a massive album. The guy's humble and self sufficient, he writes and produces everything he does. If he gets on board with some bigger names and converts his potential to a record I have no doubt he'll be the next big breakout guy. Even if he retains his humility he could go onto have a career similar to Mos Def or Black Thought.

Arya Stark · 08-13-2013, 12:02 PM

He mentioned a lot of his friends. He probably didn't mention the others because they aren't a threat.

FrigginParadox · 08-13-2013, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant

I find it quite interesting the names that Kendrick decided to omit. If we're talking those who rose to prominence around the same time then Danny Brown is a glaring omission. Could it be that Kendrick considers D Brown to be a threat to the metaphorical crown he's placed on his head.

He also neglected to call out any of his Black Hippy crew which I find interesting, he was obviously trying to stir the pot but instead of taking rappers he's obviously more talented than I.E. Ab-Soul, Jack Rock, Schoolboy Q he just didn't mention them because of their friendship, which in the basis of the song is somewhat hypocritical as K.Dot's obviously calling out the guys he believes he's above.

I tell you though, just wait for Big K.R.I.T to drop a massive album. The guy's humble and self sufficient, he writes and produces everything he does. If he gets on board with some bigger names and converts his potential to a record I have no doubt he'll be the next big breakout guy. Even if he retains his humility he could go onto have a career similar to Mos Def or Black Thought.

you got a good point. I could see D brown being a threat to him to be honest. even tho danny talks about a lot of stuff mainstream rappers do. u cant sleep on his lyricism. and it is interetsing he didnt call out black hippy, if he did that would be something!

~~Soulflower~~ · 08-13-2013, 12:24 PM

Why do rappers have to call out other people? lol

I think its so arrogant. If you are the best why would you feel the need to do this? I think rappers that have the same talent as Kendrick are really insecure when they do this. Its one thing if someone called you out but if your just trying to be an arrogant a hole for attention it appears low especially when you have the talent where you dont have to do things like this.

Im actually pretty shocked and would not have expected something like this from him. I like Kendrick and he is probably the best rapper out right now.

However, he must be smoking PCP if he thinks he is lyrically on Nas' level.

~~Soulflower~~ · 08-13-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant

See everyone on this forum harps on and on about "classics"
What makes an album a "classic", media telling you so? Time doesn't change anything. It just gives people an abhorrent illusion of nostalgia and a longing for the past. What you're in effect saying is an album can't reach "classic" status until it has aged to a certain point. But that is the weakest criteria.

Classics are timeless and are either albums or songs that you can play at any time/era and it would still sound "fresh". It would be very difficult to call an album that recently came out a "classic" when it hasnt proven the test of time. How do we know people will still be listening to the album a year from now? How do we know it will still have the same impact 10 years from now? I dont think it gives people an illusion or a longing for the past. It all boils down to how memorable the song or album is and the impact it has made. There are alot of albums and songs that the media call "classics" that I think really arent and then you have some albums that will never be held in the same regard that are classics.

**Goofle** · 08-13-2013, 12:38 PM

Big K.R.I.T. is way better than Kendrick.

Arya Stark · 08-13-2013, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

Classics are timeless and are either albums or songs that you can play at any time/era and it would still sound "fresh". It would be very difficult to call an album that recently came out a "classic" when it hasnt proven the test of time. How do we know people will still be listening to the album a year from now? How do we know it will still have the same impact 10 years from now? I dont think it gives people an illusion or a longing for the past. It all boils down to how memorable the song or album is and the impact it has made. There are alot of albums and songs that the media call "classics" that I think really arent and then you have some albums that will never be held in the same regard that are classics.

Exactly. It's not ONLY the aging that makes it a classic, but the popularity of the album over the years, even after other albums have fizzled out.

FrigginParadox · 08-13-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

Why do rappers have to call out other people? lol

I think its so arrogant. If you are the best why would you feel the need to do this? I think rappers that have the same talent as Kendrick are really insecure when they do this. Its one thing if someone called you out but if your just trying to be an arrogant a hole for attention it appears low especially when you have the talent where you dont have to do things like this.

Im actually pretty shocked and would not have expected something like this from him. I like Kendrick and he is probably the best rapper out right now.

However, he must be smoking PCP if he thinks he is lyrically on Nas' level.

Well in kendricks case it is different. its not like he dissed them. He pretty much said that he loves thoes guys but it's comipetion so he is trying to best them all.

Its interesting he didnt mention Danny Brown, Joey Badass, Earl Sweatshirt and Action Bronson. I mean thoes are currently talked about as top new lyricist right now weather you agree or disagree with it or not, its a fact they are talked about as on top. The only one on top he mentioe was Krit, maybe because he isnt making as much noise as there guys

08-13-2013, 11:34 AM	#21 (permalink)
FrigginParadox Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: NY/LA Posts: 293	i think he did mention Big Sean cus he was in the song lol. ALSO one thing people gotta realize is that Kendrick is pretty much at his prime position or reaching it. Dude has been rapping at least since he was 16 and he blew up when he was like 24 and he is 26 now. He has been rapping probably before the age of 16 but either way he has about ten years of practice verses most of the new people he mentioned who are either still youngins or have been rapping for a shorter time(including the time they blew up). I think the natrual talent kendrick has plus the years of practice is a huge factor for his undeniable skill in my opinion. just a thought. and if you think about it it's the same situation with Kritt, he just hasnt had a breakout album yet, he is pretty much at the overly dedicated stage kendrick was in __________________ Sound Cloud The Nostalgic Music Timeline of Paradox Last.FM Twitter

08-13-2013, 11:38 AM	#22 (permalink)
FrigginParadox Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: NY/LA Posts: 293	oh and same with electronica dude is like 36 lol __________________ Sound Cloud The Nostalgic Music Timeline of Paradox Last.FM Twitter

08-13-2013, 11:58 AM	#23 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	I find it quite interesting the names that Kendrick decided to omit. If we're talking those who rose to prominence around the same time then Danny Brown is a glaring omission. Could it be that Kendrick considers D Brown to be a threat to the metaphorical crown he's placed on his head. He also neglected to call out any of his Black Hippy crew which I find interesting, he was obviously trying to stir the pot but instead of taking rappers he's obviously more talented than I.E. Ab-Soul, Jack Rock, Schoolboy Q he just didn't mention them because of their friendship, which in the basis of the song is somewhat hypocritical as K.Dot's obviously calling out the guys he believes he's above. I tell you though, just wait for Big K.R.I.T to drop a massive album. The guy's humble and self sufficient, he writes and produces everything he does. If he gets on board with some bigger names and converts his potential to a record I have no doubt he'll be the next big breakout guy. Even if he retains his humility he could go onto have a career similar to Mos Def or Black Thought.

08-13-2013, 12:24 PM	#26 (permalink)
~~Soulflower~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,304	Why do rappers have to call out other people? lol I think its so arrogant. If you are the best why would you feel the need to do this? I think rappers that have the same talent as Kendrick are really insecure when they do this. Its one thing if someone called you out but if your just trying to be an arrogant a hole for attention it appears low especially when you have the talent where you dont have to do things like this. Im actually pretty shocked and would not have expected something like this from him. I like Kendrick and he is probably the best rapper out right now. However, he must be smoking PCP if he thinks he is lyrically on Nas' level.