Is Hip Hop Destroying American Youth?

Deviouz · 08-15-2014, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by COR7Nature

Thanks Deviouz!

Oh and by the way, is that Meth' on your avatar? It looks like him, but I'm not 100% sure. Dope @$$ pic!

Yep, it's Meth!

StreetMelodyz · 08-15-2014, 11:14 PM

Great post. Enjoyed it

djchameleon · 08-16-2014, 04:06 AM

I had this discussion with realtalk in the past but it seems like people tend to gloss over it and skip ahead to the time where hip hop was more socially conscious and forget about the true origins. Hip hop started out as party music point blank! Nowadays people are hating on the same party/club music that hip hop was created from because they want more socially conscious material that actually came later on. Guess what there are rappers still putting out that type of music. They just aren't at the forefront. The period of time when that style of hip hop was at the forefront wasn't even a long stretch of time.

**Janszoon** · 08-16-2014, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I had this discussion with realtalk in the past but it seems like people tend to gloss over it and skip ahead to the time where hip hop was more socially conscious and forget about the true origins. Hip hop started out as party music point blank! Nowadays people are hating on the same party/club music that hip hop was created from because they want more socially conscious material that actually came later on. Guess what there are rappers still putting out that type of music. They just aren't at the forefront. The period of time when that style of hip hop was at the forefront wasn't even a long stretch of time.

I second this.

COR7Nature · 08-16-2014, 08:37 AM

I'm done talking about the past. All I know is that 95% of rap and hip hop music material being heard and displayed to the majority of the public is mediocre at best regarding artistic talent. As far as social impact, does more harm than good because now people's brains are getting fried and dumber by the minute worshipping these clowns. Im done rubbing my testes and talking about this subject. More action is needed.

Point blank period.

~~Soulflower~~ · 08-16-2014, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I had this discussion with realtalk in the past but it seems like people tend to gloss over it and skip ahead to the time where hip hop was more socially conscious and forget about the true origins. Hip hop started out as party music point blank! Nowadays people are hating on the same party/club music that hip hop was created from because they want more socially conscious material that actually came later on. Guess what there are rappers still putting out that type of music. They just aren't at the forefront. The period of time when that style of hip hop was at the forefront wasn't even a long stretch of time.

No I don't think anyone here has done that. No one has even mentioned socially conscious music.

I love you DJ but I think you are actually glossing over the origins a bit.

People are just simply arguing the REASONS as to why Hip Hop was created. Hip Hop is a subculture and almost like a way of life from the dancing, to the language, etc. There are different forms of hip hop, yes.

However,

It still does not change the MAIN reason as to why it was created and that reason was due to the poverty and racism those minorities experienced in the inner city whether they originally created dance hip hop or not.

People are not hating on the same party club music today. The current rap mainstream music is NOT hip hop (point blank) which is what people are arguing. It is NOT Hip Hop because it is not being controlled by African Americans in the inner city anymore and is being water down by Corporate America. Instead it is being used to exploit African American and racial stereotypes. So no it is NOT the same.

~~Soulflower~~ · 08-16-2014, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by COR7Nature

I'm done talking about the past. All I know is that 95% of rap and hip hop music material being heard and displayed to the majority of the public is mediocre at best regarding artistic talent. As far as social impact, does more harm than good because now people's brains are getting fried and dumber by the minute worshipping these clowns. Im done rubbing my testes and talking about this subject. More action is needed.

I definitely agree more actions need to be implemented.

However,

The actions need to start with these famous BLACK rappers.

The problem is none of them seem to care about Hip Hop and only seem to care about their own money. They don't care about the impression they have on the youth today and the impact they have on the evolution of Hip Hop.

You will never see a rapper like Jay Z in the Brooklyn ghettos (where he originally came from) and that is sad...

DwnWthVwls · 08-16-2014, 01:36 PM

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I'm done talking about the past. All I know is that 95% of rap and hip hop music material being heard and displayed to the majority of the public is mediocre at best regarding artistic talent.

Please define artistic talent. I think most of the people here know how I define a good MC, I'd like to hear your version.

Black Francis · 08-16-2014, 02:10 PM

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The actions need to start with these famous BLACK rappers.

i agree with this, blame the rappers who choose to rap about materialistic sh*t all the time instead of always blaming the record companies who put out their albums.

cause really they are just the mediator, if a rapper only knows how to rap using gangsta stories that's what he is gonna write about and if there is an audience for that kind of thing you bet record companies will expose him and make money out of him but it's the rapper who initially decides how he is gonna portray himself.

i don't think you can manufacture depth in an artist that's something that is up to the individual. for exmpl ppl luv Tupac and biggie but even them rapped about materialistic sh*t and talked about drug dealing and murdering ppl BUT they also made tracks that spoke about problems in society and within their very own hip hop culture and it was THEM who decided to show that kind of depth not their record company.

DwnWthVwls · 08-16-2014, 02:19 PM

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i agree with this, blame the rappers who choose to rap about materialistic sh*t all the time instead of always blaming the record companies who put out their albums.

Blame the listeners for supporting rap about materialistic ****. If it didn't sell it wouldn't be mass produced, which is why there is an "underground" music scene. Don't overlook the fact that this music is not sold based on the lyrical prowess of the MCs. It is appropriate for it to be popular based on it's demand(which has nothing to do with hiphop culture).

Blame game is just silly.

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COR7Nature Groupie Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Los Angeles x Worldwide Posts: 14	I'm done talking about the past. All I know is that 95% of rap and hip hop music material being heard and displayed to the majority of the public is mediocre at best regarding artistic talent. As far as social impact, does more harm than good because now people's brains are getting fried and dumber by the minute worshipping these clowns. Im done rubbing my testes and talking about this subject. More action is needed. Point blank period.