The Band w/ the biggest impact

swim · 02-21-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Maddest_Hatter

Like I said before, the only good thing that came out of Nirvana, was Bleach. IMHO

fixed. qft.

acratertocoffin · 02-21-2007, 03:53 PM

Sabbath, easy. Every cool riff you've ever heard was done by Sabbath first and if not then they had already thought about it and decided to not use it.

Maddest_Hatter · 02-21-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by acratertocoffin

Sabbath, easy. Every cool riff you've ever heard was done by Sabbath first and if not then they had already thought about it and decided to not use it.

BRAVO, BRAVO!

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-21-2007, 04:54 PM

I`ve always been suspicious of people who say Bleach is Nirvana`s best album.

It`s almost like they`re trying their best to say 'look I like Nirvana but I couldn`t possibly say I like anything they did after they became successful because that would make me just like a sheep like the rest of those Nirvana fans' ... or something.Plus it only had 2 good songs on it , and one of those wasn`t theirs.

As for the Melvins , well I have only heard one of their albums and it sounded like an album full of copied Black Sabbath riffs with none of the songwriting ability and i`ve never given them a second thought since.

Merkaba · 02-22-2007, 01:12 AM

I have to disagree with pretty much everything there Urban.

Bleach is a more cohesive album then Nevermind, and I would call that shot even without any indication of popularity. In Utero is good, probably a more well rounded album but I'd take Bleach because of it's production sound, it's just my thing. And I never liked Incesticide so thats out. I can't find a bad song on Bleach either. I don't know how you gpt it down to 2 but I can't really see a weak point.

And I don't hear anything BS about the Melvins. You said the same thing about Kyuss, which is probably more ideal but even still it just doesn't float. There are thousands of bands who are influenced by Sabbath, or any big old school band for that matter, and too many people these days seem to think that anything that sounds like *enter 70/80's band" equates to plagarism. It's just bullshit. A similar guitar tone does not make the music the same.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-22-2007, 11:37 AM

I think my issue with Bleach is that around the time it came out there were loads of noisepop bands around doing that sort of thing much better than Nirvana were.
I still think that the whole Bleach popularity thing is down to the success of Nevermind rather than Bleach itself. My issue has always been if you love Bleach so much how come you`ve never heard stuff like Silverfish , Bomb Everything , Fudge Tunnel & Mega City Four who were Nirvana`s contemperaries at the time of Bleach`s release.
Now at this point people will probably call me an indie elistist snob or something because i`m slating the popular band and saying a bunch of bands on indie labels were better , but thats not the case , in fact those bands had a bigger following than Nirvana at the time , in fact Nirvana supported quite a few of them.
If people have heard those bands and still prefer Bleach then fair enough , I just think people should at least listen to some of the other stuff from the pre grunge era that Nirvana were a part of before saying whether Bleach is such a fantastic album.

As for the Melvins / Kyuss thing , well like I said i`m only basing my opinion on one album I heard 10 or 12 years ago , I know that you are in a much better position to comment on the Melvins than I am , but that was my initial impression on hearing them.I`ve been wrong before and I will be again.
As for Kyuss , I don`t mind them , in fact I own most of their stuff BUT whenever I hear them there`s always this nagging doubt in my head telling me i`d rather be listening to Black Sabbath instead, dunno why , it just happens.

SocialFornication · 03-10-2007, 10:29 AM

As much as I hate the Beatles... I'll have to say they had the most impact.

02-21-2007, 04:54 PM	#224 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I`ve always been suspicious of people who say Bleach is Nirvana`s best album. It`s almost like they`re trying their best to say 'look I like Nirvana but I couldn`t possibly say I like anything they did after they became successful because that would make me just like a sheep like the rest of those Nirvana fans' ... or something.Plus it only had 2 good songs on it , and one of those wasn`t theirs. As for the Melvins , well I have only heard one of their albums and it sounded like an album full of copied Black Sabbath riffs with none of the songwriting ability and i`ve never given them a second thought since. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

02-22-2007, 01:12 AM	#225 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,885	I have to disagree with pretty much everything there Urban. Bleach is a more cohesive album then Nevermind, and I would call that shot even without any indication of popularity. In Utero is good, probably a more well rounded album but I'd take Bleach because of it's production sound, it's just my thing. And I never liked Incesticide so thats out. I can't find a bad song on Bleach either. I don't know how you gpt it down to 2 but I can't really see a weak point. And I don't hear anything BS about the Melvins. You said the same thing about Kyuss, which is probably more ideal but even still it just doesn't float. There are thousands of bands who are influenced by Sabbath, or any big old school band for that matter, and too many people these days seem to think that anything that sounds like *enter 70/80's band" equates to plagarism. It's just bullshit. A similar guitar tone does not make the music the same. __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker

02-22-2007, 11:37 AM	#226 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I think my issue with Bleach is that around the time it came out there were loads of noisepop bands around doing that sort of thing much better than Nirvana were. I still think that the whole Bleach popularity thing is down to the success of Nevermind rather than Bleach itself. My issue has always been if you love Bleach so much how come you`ve never heard stuff like Silverfish , Bomb Everything , Fudge Tunnel & Mega City Four who were Nirvana`s contemperaries at the time of Bleach`s release. Now at this point people will probably call me an indie elistist snob or something because i`m slating the popular band and saying a bunch of bands on indie labels were better , but thats not the case , in fact those bands had a bigger following than Nirvana at the time , in fact Nirvana supported quite a few of them. If people have heard those bands and still prefer Bleach then fair enough , I just think people should at least listen to some of the other stuff from the pre grunge era that Nirvana were a part of before saying whether Bleach is such a fantastic album. As for the Melvins / Kyuss thing , well like I said i`m only basing my opinion on one album I heard 10 or 12 years ago , I know that you are in a much better position to comment on the Melvins than I am , but that was my initial impression on hearing them.I`ve been wrong before and I will be again. As for Kyuss , I don`t mind them , in fact I own most of their stuff BUT whenever I hear them there`s always this nagging doubt in my head telling me i`d rather be listening to Black Sabbath instead, dunno why , it just happens. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

03-10-2007, 10:29 AM	#227 (permalink)
SocialFornication Groupie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13	As much as I hate the Beatles... I'll have to say they had the most impact.