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Old 05-15-2008, 05:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Neither, really great songwriter & a even better guitar player, but he's neither. I look forward to his solo album.
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:28 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Neither, really great songwriter & a even better guitar player, but he's neither. I look forward to his solo album.
It might even actually sound different to Oasis. I can't believe I'm saying that but I think it well might. That is, if he decides to focus on his acoustic stuff.
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Because taking The Beatles sound and watering it down for the Hootie & The Blowfish crowd is just so f*cking genius.
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Because taking The Beatles sound and watering it down for the Hootie & The Blowfish crowd is just so f*cking genius.
I don't think Oasis sound anything like the Beatles, and anyway, I don't think it is possible to water down the Beatles' sound: it is already presented in the pop format.
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The Beatles were pop, but they were not bland by any means, even in their early years they wrote some pure genius pop songs.

Oasis took that sound, mainly the poppy side from it, without taking risks like The Beatles did. Then they just made it more generic and more appealing to the "adult alternative" crowd, I hear songs like Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova being played on the radio alongside songs by Barenaked Ladies, Matchbox Twenty and The Goo Goo Dolls. Compare them to those bands and tell me how they stand out, they don't.
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The Beatles were pop, but they were not bland by any means, even in their early years they wrote some pure genius pop songs.

Oasis took that sound, mainly the poppy side from it, without taking risks like The Beatles did. Then they just made it more generic and more appealing to the "adult alternative" crowd, I hear songs like Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova being played on the radio alongside songs by Barenaked Ladies, Matchbox Twenty and The Goo Goo Dolls. Compare them to those bands and tell me how they stand out, they don't.
I never said they, or pop, was bland. I'm a fan of the Beatles. But I never got the Oasis comparisons. They sound nothing like the Beatles at any stage of the Beatles' career. Oasis sounds nothing like Merseybeat, the Beatles' mid-period folk rock or "Brill Building", the later orchestral and psychedelic stuff, or anything else that the Beatles did for that matter. It's a lousy comparison that people have been making without any justification for the last 15 years. The only thing Oasis have in common with the Beatles is being a particularly hugely popular English band from a city in the north of the country.

And yeah, alright, so they did rip off a few Beatles melodies here and there. But never the style.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:58 AM   #18 (permalink)
 
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Wouldnt exactly call him a musical genius. More of a musical loser.
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Old 05-16-2008, 05:07 AM   #19 (permalink)
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yes, indeed, what is a genius ?? he's maybe a kind of genius but why only him ? Maybe we have to talk about OASIS in general, it's a band , he's not alone.

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Old 05-16-2008, 05:20 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Well he's Oasis's principal songwriter and was their only songwriter during their first two albums which are held as the best. He's quite clearly the talent behind the band. It would be cool if Oasis experimented on their next album, like stopped using the word "shine" for instance.
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