Tuneman1

By that definition, after I really learned the guitar, and listened to a lot of different types of music, I realized that Hendrix and Jimmy were very limited in that definition of ability. Both are kinda sloppy players live, and Page rarely wanders out of the minor pentatonic scale for his solos.

Watch these and tell me how this man has no soul, emotion or whatever the hell you nitwits want to call it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H78F7M-LATw
YouTube - Octavarium - solo end

Unknown Soldier

As a non-guitar player or indeed a non-musician in any way shape or form "Minor Pentatonic Scale" means jack **** to me.

The link that you have provided with the wobbly camera is not the way to impress someone.

I like John Petrucci as a guitarist but to say that both Hendrix and Page are of limited ability and sloppy players live, infers that you see them as inferior guitar players.

Watching either Hendrix, Page or Blackmore etc play the guitar, is I imagine for most people, the reason why they want to learn the instrument in the first place and form a band, along with a huge desire to listen to their music as often as possible.

boo boo

So what? There's nothing seriously limited about the pentatonic scale, it's the most commonly used scale in music from all around the world. It's the foundation of blues and rock music, and a lot of folk music, and since that's what Page's music is derived from, rather than being derived from neo classical music like Petrucci is, of course he prefers the pentatonic scale.

Saying a guitarist is better based on what kind of scales he uses is just ridiculous. It's all about how you play, not what you play.

I'm no muso, but I don't think I have to be to know that you don't know as much about music theory as you want us to believe.

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do you log in just to post in this thread?

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No, he posts elsewhere. That would be Tuneman who only trolls this thread.

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Tuneman1

Im no theory buff, but I know enough that you can only do so much with the same 5 notes. Being able to play in different scales means that you have the ABILITY to invoke more expressions with your music.

I want you to tell me that after you see these vids, if you still think he is a robot.

boo boo

I confess, that last one is actually really damn good, if Petrucci did more of that, I would like him a lot more, rest assured.

Look, I'm not one of these people ranting about how he likes emotion, I don't even like that term, "emotion", it's a very subjective term. I mean what counts as emotional guitar playing? Just playing the guitar slow and tastefull? You don't have to be "emotional" to do that.

I'm not accusing Petrucci of lacking emotion, I accuse him of lacking taste, restraint and creativity.

And because of that his music doesn't have the kinda emotional impact on me that other guitarists have, he lacks the taste of guys like Gilmour, Santana and Harrison, and the energy of guys like Hendrix, Page and Townsend.

Even when Petrucci takes it slow, it's not anything Steve Hackett, Jan Akkerman or Andy Latimer couldn't do better, they're just as skilled as Petrucci if not more, but a lot more creative, original and tasteful at the same time.

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sambo

I don't really agree with your list my top 10 would be.
Jimi Hendrix
Zakk Wylde
Randy Rhodes
Eddie Vanhalen
Gary Moore
Jake lee
Dimebag
Tony Iommi
Angus Young
Malcolm Young

boo boo

Metal isn't the only rock genre in existance ya know.

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