Death Magnetic

jackhammer · 09-11-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

Alright alright fine, edited.

And yeah, I guess it does sound a bit off, but that's probably because I was replying to a few particular points somebody made in a post. He was talking about how a lot of people think DM is good but not "great" (as in up there with RTL/MOP). I'm basically just saying that it's virtually impossible for it to be "great" now because that style had already gone about as far as it was going to go by the early '90s, so anything thrashy made afterwards is probably just going to sound like a bunch of rehashed riffs/ideas. If Death Magnetic came out in '86 and Master Of Puppets came out now, people would probably be going on about how it's good but not quite up there with RTL/DM/AJFA.

Calm down fella. I agree with your review and you did'nt recieve a PM did you

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~~The Unfan~~ · 09-11-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

I'm basically just saying that it's virtually impossible for it to be "great" now because that style had already gone about as far as it was going to go by the early '90s, so anything thrashy made afterwards is probably just going to sound like a bunch of rehashed riffs/ideas. If Death Magnetic came out in '86 and Master Of Puppets came out now, people would probably be going on about how it's good but not quite up there with RTL/DM/AJFA.

Or not. Death Magnetic is just a genuinely bad thrash album. The riffs sound redundant, the song structures seem to flop about as opposed to progressing, the leads aren't notably good, the production is horrendously over done, and it seems to lack any real emotion. MOP was masterfully crafted, DM just isn't.

jackhammer · 09-11-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

Or not. Death Magnetic is just a genuinely bad thrash album. The riffs sound redundant, the song structures seem to flop about as opposed to progressing, the leads aren't notably good, the production is horrendously over done, and it seems to lack any real emotion. MOP was masterfully crafted, DM just isn't.

MOP had Burton underpinning everything with his melodic sense. They have NEVER come close to recreating this since. However DM is damn close. The reason why it sounds overdone and lacks emotion is because Thrash (as Wayfarer points out) is a limited genre and before we get all the 'sub genre' labels; Thrash is a genre that influenced a multitude of other Metal genres; yet there is no reason why it cannot stay true to it's original ideals and perform within those parameters.

Metallica were never a 'Progressive' band who pushed boundaries and musical avenues. They are merely one of the best bands at what they do. Motorhead and Hawkwind still stick to a fairly set formula so why not Metallica?

If you think it's a sloppy Thrash album, then you should backtrack and listen to every other Metal album circa '88-'90. The odd gem passed through but by god was there some crap.

vic1 · 01-21-2009, 10:50 AM

Good album. Good for them.

lucifer_sam · 09-11-2008, 05:04 PM

The few songs I've heard off the album were unimpressive, but I'll give the whole thing a spin later. I've never really had much affection for Metallica, but boy is Ride the Lightning a great album.

jamestl2 · 09-11-2008, 09:24 PM

I wonder who else really liked The Unforgiven III? I especially liked the piano intro. Also Suicide and Redemption is a pretty good instrumental too.

Can't wait to pick DM up tomorrow...

15Steps · 09-11-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jamestl2

I wonder who else really liked The Unforgiven III? I especially liked the piano intro. Also Suicide and Redemption is a pretty good instrumental too.

Can't wait to pick DM up tomorrow...

Dull and, dare a say it? Duller.

DM was a horrible album, terrible production (which is a shame, since rubin has impressed me in the past.) rehashed crap that neither impresses or is any way different than past crap spewed out by 'tallica in the past 10 years.
i have to agree with pitchfork on this one, DM is basically St Anger with better riffs.

10 minute trash instrumentals can not be pulled off successfully.

jamestl2 · 09-11-2008, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 15Steps

Dull and, dare a say it? Duller.

DM was a horrible album, terrible production (which is a shame, since rubin has impressed me in the past.) rehashed crap that neither impresses or is any way different than past crap spewed out by 'tallica in the past 10 years.
i have to agree with pitchfork on this one, DM is basically St Anger with better riffs.

Maybe, but it's better than 90% of the rest of the modern-day "music" out there IMO.

I think I'd like to wait until I actually purchase the CD and give it a few listen-throughs before I actually gave a full opinion on the album.

15Steps · 09-12-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jamestl2

Maybe, but it's better than 90% of the rest of the modern-day "music" out there

ignorance.

jamestl2 · 09-13-2008, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 15Steps

ignorance.

Okaaaay....

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01-21-2009, 10:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
vic1 Groupie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5	Good album. Good for them.

09-11-2008, 09:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
jamestl2 Groupie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 10	I wonder who else really liked The Unforgiven III? I especially liked the piano intro. Also Suicide and Redemption is a pretty good instrumental too. Can't wait to pick DM up tomorrow...