The Official Grunge Thread

[Automatic Slim]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

It's not surprising for me to encounter people in their 30s who like grunge, what I think is so strange is the teenage kids who crop up here on a regular basis and are fanatical grunge fans. That's really what I was getting at with the post you're quoting.

Somewhat odd, I guess. Maybe grunge is enjoying some type of 'retro' stylishness with some teenagers because it's no longer 'cool'. On the other hand, is it any odder than the teenage Megadeth, and Metallica fans who weren't around when those bands were in their prime?

[mr dave]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

It's not surprising for me to encounter people in their 30s who like grunge, what I think is so strange is the teenage kids who crop up here on a regular basis and are fanatical grunge fans. That's really what I was getting at with the post you're quoting.

same here. that's why i made the comment about assumptions earlier in the thread. i see something about the prominent music style of my youth i'm going to check it out, and what do i get?

a manifesto about how we are in regards to a bunch of marketing terms.

if grunge wasn't about fashion why is it the first thing listed? if one 'truly' doesn't care about something why do they spend any amount of effort discussing it?

i don't remember anyone around me dressing the parts. then again people had been wearing flannel for decades prior. cheeseballs in big cities have always played dress up.

the use of the 'grunge' term went away as quickly as it was established. 'alternative' and 'alt-rock' soon became the standard terms to define the style.

as for the rebellious attitude. WHAT? when? if anything the grunge generation was one of the most apathetic and depressed ones out there.

if you want to establish your own identity by hiding behind my generation's cultural costume then that's your prerogative. we will just have to agree to disagree on what grunge is / was. the fact that you bring up that parenting book shows that you're still coming to grips with your own identity. you are living up to the title after all, you're the one telling us how it is, how we are, just like a boss...

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by Automatic Slim

Somewhat odd, I guess. Maybe grunge is enjoying some type of 'retro' stylishness with some teenagers because it's no longer 'cool'. On the other hand, is it any odder than the teenage Megadeth, and Metallica fans who weren't around when those bands were in their prime?

Yeah, I do think it's odder actually because metal tends to be more of a continuum that exists to a large extent outside of trends. Not that metal doesn't have its movements and whatnot, it obviously does, but it seems like metal fans usually like a long line of metal extending back to the 70s regardless of whether it's in out or out of style. The young grunge fans we get here, on the contrary, often have a total fixation on grunge and very little interest in the music that inspired it or the music that came after it. I find that really perplexing.

Edit: Also, I don't think I've ever seen a metal fan, or anyone else for that matter, post the kind manifesto about their favorite-type-of-music-as-a-cultural-movement the way we see grunge fans do.

[Automatic Slim]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Yeah, I do think it's odder actually because metal tends to be more of a continuum that exists to a large extent outside of trends. Not that metal doesn't have its movements and whatnot, it obviously does, but it seems like metal fans usually like a long line of metal extending back to the 70s regardless of whether it's in out or out of style. The young grunge fans we get here, on the contrary, often have a total fixation on grunge and very little interest in the music that inspired it or the music that came after it. I find that really perplexing.

Edit: Also, I don't think I've ever seen a metal fan, or anyone else for that matter, post the kind manifesto about their favorite-type-of-music-as-a-cultural-movement the way we see grunge fans do.

Points well taken. Perhaps the "total fixation on grunge" you mention might be the result of the teens' lack of experience with other styles of music/bands. Maybe they'd be fixated on whatever caught their attention first, hence the fixation on Nirvana of many young grunge fans.

[ElephantSack]

What? Is grunge coming back into style amongst high-schoolers?

That'd be some ****. I was listening to nothing but grunge and metal while I was in high school (2000-2004), but it never got me any attention. I definitely wasn't a "cool" kid. ****in' trends. Figures.

[Ahem]

Mr. Dave:



Wow... That was a great comment.

About the not caring, I really did mean to just come here, say what's on my mind, and leave. So while I was writing, I didn't even expect comments or anyone reading it for that matter.

About the fashion thing, you kind of actually helped my point. I was saying that people started calling it grunge fashion because of grunge artists wearing It. I know they just wore it because it was cold. Not to sell.

The attitude, I guess that was just around me. And I tryed to mellow it out because what I mean is that I don't rebel unless I truly feel I need to rebel.

The book thing: I just threw it in there because of was another thing pissing me off. Also, I wasn't telling anyone how to be, I told them what I am.

The use of the word we is something I really regret doing. It was my load, I'm done with it, and, other to message back to this, I see good point in just letting the whole thread die.

I'm tired of defending music. I like how it sounds and that's all there is to it.

[Anteater]

1. Grunge isn't popular. What seems to be in style now is mostly pop-punk shit like Forever The Sickest Kids, Fall Out Boy, etc.

2. Most of what we call post-grunge is what the average listener thinks of as simply "rock or hard rock", even if its not either of those things despite what every dumbcunt music publication says.

[Ahem]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Edit: Also, I don't think I've ever seen a metal fan, or anyone else for that matter, post the kind manifesto about their favorite-type-of-music-as-a-cultural-movement the way we see grunge fans do.

I got it off my chest for myself and if you look around, we have to try hard defending it.

If someone said your favorite band sucks with reasons you can debunk, I'm pretty sure you'd do just that. But grunge has so many more people against it.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by Ahem

I got it off my chest for myself and if you look around, we have to try hard defending it.

If someone said your favorite band sucks with reasons you can debunk, I'm pretty sure you'd do just that. But grunge has so many more people against it.

LOL. Grunge is easily one of the most popular styles of rock music of the past 30 years, you're pretty hard pressed to say it has "so many more people against it".

[Ahem]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

LOL. Grunge is easily one of the most popular styles of rock music of the past 30 years, you're pretty hard pressed to say it has "so many more people against it".

Look around!
I'm sitting here typing over and over, as to compare that if I said to wear leather as a judas priest fan most everybody would nod there head and leave. And I only mean here right now.