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Grunge_Junkie 09-16-2008 06:42 PM

i guess.

Meph1986 09-16-2008 07:20 PM

What is the reason for the hostility towards Grunge here anyways?

Grunge_Junkie 09-16-2008 07:24 PM

dont really know. i dont think anyone knows.

Cobe Kai 09-16-2008 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Meph1986 (Post 520019)
What is the reason for the hostility towards Grunge here anyways?

They favour different kinds of music and are hostile to grunge to hide the insecurities of their own music.

Janszoon 09-16-2008 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobe Kai (Post 520040)
They favour different kinds of music and are hostile to grunge to hide the insecurities of their own music.

LOL. You know how you feel about emo? You go to school with a ton of kids who love it, it's overblown and overrated and nearly impossible to avoid. That's what grunge was like when people my age were your age.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-16-2008 09:28 PM

I don't hate it I just dislike 99% of it

Brad Stengel 09-17-2008 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 520096)
LOL. You know how you feel about emo? You go to school with a ton of kids who love it, it's overblown and overrated and nearly impossible to avoid. That's what grunge was like when people my age were your age.

Well put. It sucks even more though, cos I was like 5 when grunge was big, and I still have college kids shoving trash like AIC and Pearl Jam, and though they arent grunge, Red Hot Chili Peppers down my throat, while emo will probably be forgotten in 10 years.

The only good "grunge" was Nirvana, and later STP albums were alright, once they stopped ripping off Pearl Jam so hard. Theres so much better truly alternative music from 1991-1995, teenage fanclub, pavement, magnetic fields, superchunk, my bloody valentine, I dont know why anyone wastes theyre time listening to dozens of ex-hair metal bands trying to sound like Nirvana and Pearl Jam.

Janszoon 09-17-2008 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel (Post 520304)
Theres so much better truly alternative music from 1991-1995, teenage fanclub, pavement, magnetic fields, superchunk, my bloody valentine, I dont know why anyone wastes theyre time listening to dozens of ex-hair metal bands trying to sound like Nirvana and Pearl Jam.

That pretty much sums it up. Funny thing, it looks like you're from right where I grew up too.

Akira 09-17-2008 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobe Kai (Post 520040)
They favour different kinds of music and are hostile to grunge to hide the insecurities of their own music.

I'm really not saying this to cause offense or start an argument or anything of the sort, but.....

Throughout your many posts of hatred of different genres you have shown yourself to be fairly uneducated musically speaking. Which is fine, because some people aren't bothered and others start out late etc etc.

But you complain that people here dont like grunge music and yet there are several entire genres (wide genres, not even sub genres) that you have completely dismissed as being crap or boring, whilst displaying the fact that you know hardly anything about them. Also, as if the music wasn't bad enough, you then bring out your tabloid stereotypes of the audiences of these genres and show your hatred towards them.

Focusing all your love on one aspect of music and dismissing most other stuff as crap is very closed minded, especially when you are not fully aware of what the rest has to offer. If you choose to do that, then again, that's fine. But once you come on here and start showing your views then don't be surprised if:
  • People disagree
  • People get upset
  • People mock you
  • Your limited knowledge is apparent to everyone

Grunge_Junkie 09-17-2008 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 520096)
LOL. You know how you feel about emo? You go to school with a ton of kids who love it, it's overblown and overrated and nearly impossible to avoid. That's what grunge was like when people my age were your age.

ok thats true. i guess in the 90's there were alot of people that listened to grunge music.

Brad Stengel 09-17-2008 11:15 AM

From what Ive seen theres just as many people(if not MORE) people who listen to grunge right now in 2008 as there are kids that listen to emo. For example, I dont know if its true for the rest of the country, but on Boston radio, the alternative station probably plays 3 Nirvana songs, 2 pearl jam songs, 2 stp songs, and an alice in chains song for every 1 good charlotte song. Its overwhelming. Ive pretty much avoided emo jams my whole life, as opposed to grunge which Im surrounded by. Its like the new classic rock, a whole new litter of bands to overplay, thus sucking out any possible enjoyment I may have once had for them.




Oh, and on a related note, anyone want to join my grunge band, "Grump-Truck"? It sounds alot like my other band, "Angry-Dozer". We need a drummer.

Janszoon 09-17-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Grunge_Junkie (Post 520319)
ok thats true. i guess in the 90's there were alot of people that listened to grunge music.

Heh. That's an understatement. Grunge was basically the default style of rock music during that time period. It was everywhere, including on the cover of Time magazine:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...931025_400.jpg

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-17-2008 11:23 AM

And lets not forget grunge gave us some of the ugliest female bands ever.

Brad Stengel 09-17-2008 11:24 AM

And dont forget those fabulous Phillies....

Brad Stengel 09-17-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 520329)
And lets not forget grunge gave us some of the ugliest female bands ever.

True, however I think The Slits take the cake.

Janszoon 09-17-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel (Post 520327)
From what Ive seen theres just as many people(if not MORE) people who listen to grunge right now in 2008 as there are kids that listen to emo. For example, I dont know if its true for the rest of the country, but on Boston radio, the alternative station probably plays 3 Nirvana songs, 2 pearl jam songs, 2 stp songs, and an alice in chains song for every 1 good charlotte song. Its overwhelming. Ive pretty much avoided emo jams my whole life, as opposed to grunge which Im surrounded by. Its like the new classic rock, a whole new litter of bands to overplay, thus sucking out any possible enjoyment I may have once had for them.

LOL. WBCN amirite?

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-17-2008 11:26 AM

They're right

Pearl Jam did give voice to the passions & fears of my generation.

As in 'when is this shitty genre going to die and when are we going to hear some good bands instead of this shit' being my biggest fear

Grunge_Junkie 09-17-2008 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 520328)
Heh. That's an understatement. Grunge was basically the default style of rock music during that time period. It was everywhere

so it was like emo back in the day? im sorry that im asking this i wasn't in that time peroid so i dont know.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-17-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Grunge_Junkie (Post 520337)
so it was like emo back in the day? im sorry that im asking this i wasn't in that time peroid so i dont know.

Worse , it took over 15 years for it to die

Brad Stengel 09-17-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 520335)
LOL. WBCN amirite?

Haha you betcha.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 520338)
Worse , it took over 15 years for it to die

17 and counting...its still alive and well considering its heavy inclusion on mainstream radio and the existence of this thread.

Grunge_Junkie 09-17-2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 520338)
Worse , it took over 15 years for it to die

i dont think its dead...

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-17-2008 11:47 AM

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Alternative?
:laughing:

Brad Stengel 09-17-2008 11:48 AM

Me either. It sucks.


And I dont want to seem unfairly biased...I used to be a huge grunge fanboy, I owned cds by Mad Season, Temple of the dog, STP, Alice In chains...I own every Nirvana album, inclusing the with the lights out boxset and a burned cd of rarities and b-sides...its lke I said though, one I discovered other stuff from the time like pavement, pixies, my bloody valentine, and guided by voices, it all paled ALOT in comparison. It didnt stick, and continued to be overplayed.

Branching out led to my dismissal of grunge, and Ive never looked back, because those bands I mentioned have albums that I treasure 1000% more than any 'grunge' album I ever owned.

Ironically it was alot of suggestions by Kurt Cobain mentioned in interviews that led me to branch out, introducing me to The Vaselines, Meat Puppets, Pixies, P.I.L., Sonic Youth, and a buttload more.

Grunge_Junkie 09-17-2008 11:51 AM

mad season's vocals is layne right?

Brad Stengel 09-17-2008 11:54 AM

Yeah its Layne Stayley and I think another grunge band does the music...maybe Soundgarden? Temple of the Dog was another supergroup which was Soundgarden and Pearl Jam...also sucked. They did that awful 'Hunger Strike' song about veganism.

Grunge_Junkie 09-17-2008 11:55 AM

Mad Season. has people from Screaming Trees, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains.

And Temple of the Dog sucked.. then again i dont like Eddie Vedder

Brad Stengel 09-17-2008 12:00 PM

Ahhh thats who's in it. I just knew they were a supergroup. A super-CRAPPY-group. Yukyukyukyukyukyuk.

But yeah, I always recommend Pavement to people stuck on grunge, they sound 90's but they dont suck, if you want to branch out I reccomend them and the Pixies.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-17-2008 12:00 PM

This is what 10 years of record company interference , Mainstream exposure and deluded record buyers thinking they're 'alternative' does to a genre...


1987


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I was going to post this an hour ago but I fell asleep during the 2nd video.

Akira 09-17-2008 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 520356)
I was going to post this an hour ago but I fell asleep during the 2nd video.

:rofl:

jackhammer 09-17-2008 12:59 PM

God damn, Dinosaur Jr are so good. More people should dig them.

Meph1986 09-17-2008 01:39 PM

Meh, I like it.

Janszoon 09-17-2008 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Grunge_Junkie (Post 520337)
so it was like emo back in the day? im sorry that im asking this i wasn't in that time peroid so i dont know.

I would say it was worse. Radio stations like the station Brad Stengel mentioned, WBCN in Boston, actually completely changed their format overnight from classic rock and hair bands to "alternative" which meant about 90% grunge. It was total grunge overload.

Janszoon 09-17-2008 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 520380)
God damn, Dinosaur Jr are so good. More people should dig them.

I always had trouble getting past J Mascis' voice.

jackhammer 09-17-2008 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 520403)
I always had trouble getting past J Mascis' voice.

It has never bothered me and TBH he usually buried his vocals a little in the production anyhow.

Grunge_Junkie 09-17-2008 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 520402)
I would say it was worse. Radio stations like the station Brad Stengel mentioned, WBCN in Boston, actually completely changed their format overnight from classic rock and hair bands to "alternative" which meant about 90% grunge. It was total grunge overload.

i guess that would get annoying.

sweetleaf 09-18-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 519120)
It's good to know that discussion of the 90s most boring music has a home now.

:rofl: If only grunge music was as entertaining as this thread... I think some of us should start a grunge band and call it Bugger Me Sideways and Call Me Doris...

Brad Stengel 09-18-2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 520455)
It has never bothered me and TBH he usually buried his vocals a little in the production anyhow.


I agree. I dont find his vocals any worse than, say, Neil Young.

Janszoon 09-18-2008 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel (Post 520888)
I agree. I dont find his vocals any worse than, say, Neil Young.

Neil Young is another person whose vocals I have trouble getting past. :p:

Brad Stengel 09-18-2008 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 520890)
Neil Young is another person whose vocals I have trouble getting past. :p:

Well, than that explains it all then! I listen to Jeff Mangum on a religious basis, so Neil Young and J. Mascis don't even phase me.

Janszoon 09-18-2008 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel (Post 520892)
Well, than that explains it all then! I listen to Jeff Mangum on a religious basis, so Neil Young and J. Mascis don't even phase me.

I hadn't heard of Jeff Mangum until just now so I just listened to some samples of his stuff and his voice sounds fine to me. I don't generally have a problem with unconventional vocal styles (I'm a huge J. G. Thirlwell fan for example), but Neil Young and J Mascis just happen to be among the handful of people I can think of whose singing voices are an obstacle for me.


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