The Official Grunge Thread (techno, rock, Nirvana, member, quote)

[feedbacker]

Originally Posted by Automatic Slim

2. TAD: released 4 great albums - God's Balls, Salt Lick, Inhaler, and 8 Way Santa. However, if the Melvins are considered grunge, they'd be 2nd place.

Their songs never grabbed me, though Mudhoney did have some good stuff like 'Halloween'.

If the Melvins are considered grunge, I'd take them over anything listed by a long shot.

And you know "Halloween" is a cover, right? Anyway, Melvins and Mudhoney would be my 1 and 2 for that scene/era.

Originally Posted by Zero1986

I'm really suprised and disappointed that no one voted for Superfuzz Bigmuff.

Me, too, tbh. Even if the people voting skew young, you'd think someone would have heard this (or just voted for it to be contrary). Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge is still my favorite by them and still awesome all these years later.

I'm also puzzled how the Afghan Whigs belong on this list. Was it the Sub Pob connection? If so, why isn't Earth 2 listed? It's possibly the heaviest thing ever released on that label.

[Zer0]

Originally Posted by feedbacker

I'm also puzzled how the Afghan Whigs belong on this list. Was it the Sub Pob connection?

Probably yeah, they signed to Sub Pop in 1989 when grunge was taking off and released 2 albums and an EP for them, and they were also the first band from outside the North-West to sign for them. I wouldn't really class them as grunge though, but they were a hard band to categorise. People just lumped them in with grunge because they were signed to Sub Pop for a time and sounded a bit similar to Pearl Jam and Screaming Trees. In my view they were just kickass rock band around during the grunge era.

[Automatic Slim]

Originally Posted by feedbacker

If the Melvins are considered grunge, I'd take them over anything listed by a long shot.

And you know "Halloween" is a cover, right? Anyway, Melvins and Mudhoney would be my 1 and 2 for that scene/era.

I don't really consider Melvins grunge, but they're often lumped in with the Seattle scene. They're kind of hard to categorize because of their penchant for 'noise experiments', etc. Anyway, Buzzo and company are great.

AiC doesn't fit in with the other grunge bands either. (Does Soundgarden either?) I always considered them some type of metal, except their EPs. If we're talking 'grungy' grunge (!?), I'd say Tad is number 1 and maybe Mudhoney is number 2.
Btw, I don't think anyone here has mentioned My Sister's Machine, who put out 2 good albums.

I did not know that 'Halloween' was a cover (I had to google it.). I haven't listened to Sonic Youth in many years, nor did I ever buy any of their albums. I may have to investigate them.

That also reminded me that Green River did a bizarre cover of Blue Oyster Cult (BOC is one of my all-time favorites.). 'Swallow My Pride' covers (sort of) 'This Ain't the Summer of Love'.

[Megadead2]

Originally Posted by Automatic Slim

AiC doesn't fit in with the other grunge bands either. (Does Soundgarden either?) I always considered them some type of metal, except their EPs.

Awesome. Between Pitchfork, other music boards, and here, I have now heard someone somewhere argue that each member of the grunge "Big Four" is not, in fact, grunge. :P

[Automatic Slim]

Originally Posted by Megadead2

Awesome. Between Pitchfork, other music boards, and here, I have now heard someone somewhere argue that each member of the grunge "Big Four" is not, in fact, grunge. :P

Well, 'grunge' is a slippery genre. I cannot find common stylistic elements between all the bands which are lumped under 'grunge'. What do Stone Temple Pilots and Green River have in common stylistically? Or Pearl Jam and the Melvins? Not much. If Katatonia had come from Seattle in the 1990's, they'd probably have been called grunge.' Grunge' is an almost uselessly broad term that lumps all sorts of dissimilar bands together.

Since I've waded into the subgenre waters this far , how about adding a bunch of subgenres to grunge:
1. traditional grunge: Mudhoney, Green River
2. heavy grunge: Tad, My Sister's Machine
3. sludge grunge: Melvins, Willard
4. pop grunge: Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, and any 'post-grunge' band
5. doom grunge: Alice In Chains, Temple of the Dog, 'Ten' by Pearl Jam

No, I'm not serious.

[SATCHMO]

Originally Posted by Automatic Slim

Well, 'grunge' is a slippery genre. I cannot find common stylistic elements between all the bands which are lumped under 'grunge'. What do Stone Temple Pilots and Green River have in common stylistically? Or Pearl Jam and the Melvins? Not much. If Katatonia had come from Seattle in the 1990's, they'd probably have been called grunge.' Grunge' is an almost uselessly broad term that lumps all sorts of dissimilar bands together.

Since I've waded into the subgenre waters this far , how about adding a bunch of subgenres to grunge:
1. traditional grunge: Mudhoney, Green River
2. heavy grunge: Tad, My Sister's Machine
3. sludge grunge: Melvins, Willard
4. pop grunge: Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, and any 'post-grunge' band
5. doom grunge: Alice In Chains, Temple of the Dog, 'Ten' by Pearl Jam

No, I'm not serious.

Ahhh....that's fabulous!

[5-Track]

Originally Posted by Automatic Slim

I don't really consider Melvins grunge, but they're often lumped in with the Seattle scene

I recall reading once a long time ago that the Melvins invented grunge by switching from being the fastest band around to the slowest, more-or-less overnight. Of course, I may have read that in ROLLING STONE, so take it how you will.