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Old 07-18-2011, 03:57 AM   #41 (permalink)
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The metal media, to what extent it exists, hands out such titles as though they were tic-tacs; Morbid Angel have been called the Ramones of Death Metal, for instance.
.........as Ozzy Osbourne has been called the Godfather of Metal and Iggy Pop the Godfather of Punk. They really should take more effort before handing out such titles
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:16 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Death are 2nd wave of Death Metal; first wave bands such as Sepultura & Possessed were more important.
Huh? Death is older than Sepultura and the same age as Possessed. I fail to see how they're "second wave".
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:36 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Huh? Death is older than Sepultura and the same age as Possessed. I fail to see how they're "second wave".
Yeah, never thought Death Metal had a 2nd Wave, it was pretty much one tidal wave, that got more progressive and technical with time. Maybe there's some confusion with the second wave of black metal, since Sepultura was considered a first wave BM band.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:03 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Yeah, never thought Death Metal had a 2nd Wave, it was pretty much one tidal wave, that got more progressive and technical with time. Maybe there's some confusion with the second wave of black metal, since Sepultura was considered a first wave BM band.
I've never heard Sepultura described as black metal. I don't really see how the label would fit them.
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I've never heard Sepultura described as black metal. I don't really see how the label would fit them.
Give "Bestial Devastation" and "Morbid Vision" a listen. It was before Kisser joined up with them. They were doing the DYI, low-fi, dark Satanic, horns up thing, comfortably placing them in league with Venom, Celtic Frost and Bathory.
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:28 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Death predated Sepultura and Possessed.

Hellhammer and Death were around from the start (Death under the name Mantas).
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Death predated Sepultura and Possessed.
That could make them proto-death metal
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:09 PM   #48 (permalink)
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plus "Beastial Devestation" is kinda bad. Not Sepultura's crowning achievement. Sure it was an inspiration to Death Metal, but subtract the inspiration and left with a pretty awful release.
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plus "Beastial Devestation" is kinda bad. Not Sepultura's crowning achievement. Sure it was an inspiration to Death Metal, but subtract the inspiration and left with a pretty awful release.
Keep in mind it was recorded in two days, and the band members couldn't speak English yet. They had a friend who could speak the language (sort of) translate for them so some of their lyrics on that EP aren't even grammatically correct. It's so strange to listen to early Sepultura and then pop in Chaos or Roots. It's like two completely different bands.
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yeah. in that regard it is interesting. But they were better as a Thrash band "Schizophrenia", "Beneath the Remains" and "Arise" was the holy trilogy for them.
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