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Key 04-19-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1180204)
I would prefer a band like Tool to take their time to develop the best album possible rather than the route that many bands (unfortunately follow) where they just throw together albums on the fly to sell as many as they can. A six year wait may not be a bad thing, it also aides in appreciating the album all the more when it does come out.

Agreed. Tool is one of those bands where you know the album is going to be great if they are taking a long time to record and release it. I expect nothing but amazing with an upcoming record from them.

Astronomer 04-20-2012 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by milano (Post 1180101)
I wouldn't give up on them yet. Any tool fan knows that the band is very mysterious about when they say they're in the studio, and when they say they're going to release a new album. I'm hoping for a new album this year, but i'm not going to be disappointed if it doesn't happen.

Eh, I know they like to take time with their releases to make them 'perfect' and quality or whatever, but it took sooooo long for 10,000 days to come out and it just wasn't up there for me. Their albums are taking longer to create and they seem to be deteriorating.

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1180107)
Nice to see you posting again :)

If you're looking for something to curb the shakes and sweats that accompany waiting for a new Tool release I would recommend checking out the band Rishloo. They kind of occupy the same space as Pineapple Thief, a band that manages to mimic the sound and style of another, better band, but does so in such a way that makes them quite listenable. I would recommend their 2007 album Eidolon, although I've heard good things about their 2004 album Terras Fames.

Thank you kind sir :)

Cool, I will check them out! Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Zer0 (Post 1180184)
I would have expected a new album by now. I know there was five years between Ænima and Lateralus, and five years between Lateralus and 10,000 Days, but come on now six years is pushing it. Six years!

10,000 Days wasn't quite as good as Ænima and Lateralus but I'm still wondering can they still pull off something impressive at this stage in their career. Hopefully they will release something late this year or early next year.

I'm with you Zer0. Somehow I don't think anything will be released late this year or early next. I actually heard an interview with Danny Carey on the radio and he said next year at the very EARLIEST (read: not next year).

Euronomus 04-20-2012 03:27 AM

They're definitely working on new stuff, they just released the first ever pictures of them writing.
http://207.7.138.58/images/news/justinloft1
http://207.7.138.58/images/news/dannyloft2
http://207.7.138.58/images/news/adamloft2
Every single Tool song ever from Opiate to the one they are currently working on was written entirely in the room those pics were taken in.

Astronomer 04-20-2012 04:24 AM

^ Yeah I've seen Maynard's video blogs of them 'writing' too, though he started posting them up around 2 years ago...

TheBig3 04-20-2012 10:22 AM

To go back to the argument about "who's best" in Tool - I think the question misses the point.

Questions like that are the sort that create things like "Supergroups" which are universally terrible. The question puts a premium on talent and disregards cohesion. Which is what Tool has going for it and why I think they have more universal appeal.

People know talent when they see it, even if they don't like it. But when its 4 guys being awesome at their own thing its boring. When they have a unity of effect, its so much more impressive.

Sometimes knowing when to pull up on the reigns is far more important than memorizing your scales.

blastingas10 04-20-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1180204)
I would prefer a band like Tool to take their time to develop the best album possible rather than the route that many bands (unfortunately follow) where they just throw together albums on the fly to sell as many as they can. A six year wait may not be a bad thing, it also aides in appreciating the album all the more when it does come out.

True. There's nothing wrong with taking your time on an album. It's certainly an unusual thing to do. I wish more bands would take their time and go through some ideas instead of just slapping everything together real fast. But that's not to say there hasn't been some good music that was put together rather quickly.

Astronomer 04-20-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1180418)
To go back to the argument about "who's best" in Tool - I think the question misses the point.

Questions like that are the sort that create things like "Supergroups" which are universally terrible. The question puts a premium on talent and disregards cohesion. Which is what Tool has going for it and why I think they have more universal appeal.

People know talent when they see it, even if they don't like it. But when its 4 guys being awesome at their own thing its boring. When they have a unity of effect, its so much more impressive.

Sometimes knowing when to pull up on the reigns is far more important than memorizing your scales.

Yeah, I agree Big3. I could never pick a 'best' or 'favourite' band member of Tool...

Key 04-20-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 1180547)
Yeah, I agree Big3. I could never pick a 'best' or 'favourite' band member of Tool...

I agree with this as well. There's not really one members I like more than the other.

Mrd00d 04-20-2012 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 1180309)
Eh, I know they like to take time with their releases to make them 'perfect' and quality or whatever, but it took sooooo long for 10,000 days to come out and it just wasn't up there for me. Their albums are taking longer to create and they seem to be deteriorating.

I'm on board with this line of thinking. When 10,000 Days came out, I thought it was a joke album they had slapped together real quick to make us go "This is it? All that waiting for this!?" and then they would come out with the real album. The real album never came out. I didn't lose heart. 10,000 Days grew on me to an extent. I don't dislike it at all, at least not anymore. I was expecting something else, though. I'm very excited to hear their latest.

cLoCkWeRk 04-22-2012 10:37 AM

One of the best bands of all time!

Above 04-23-2012 12:01 PM

I really loved 10'000 days...

Key 04-23-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1181632)
I really loved 10'000 days...

Me too. Especially Wings for Marie pt.1 and 10,000 Days pt.2.

TheBig3 04-23-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1181668)
Me too. Especially Wings for Marie pt.1 and 10,000 Days pt.2.

yessssssssssssssssssss

Key 04-23-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1181704)
yessssssssssssssssssss

Great songs eh? :)

IWP 04-23-2012 05:56 PM

I've seen em live a few months ago, other than the fact that me and my girlfriend had to sit all the way near the top of the arena, it was a great show. =)

Key 04-23-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by IWP (Post 1181799)
I've seen em live a few months ago, other than the fact that me and my girlfriend had to sit all the way near the top of the arena, it was a great show. =)

The light show is probably the most memorable part of the show if I remember correctly.

TheBig3 04-23-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1181756)
Great songs eh? :)

Wings for Marie has a bassline that plays on the wavelength of my soul.

Tool is so good with know what instrumentation makes the atmosphere jump.

Key 04-23-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1181881)
Wings for Marie has a bassline that plays on the wavelength of my soul.

Tool is so good with know what instrumentation makes the atmosphere jump.

Absolutely agree with you. Probably my favorite tracks next to Vicarious.

Astronomer 04-24-2012 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1181815)
The light show is probably the most memorable part of the show if I remember correctly.

Yeah their visuals are stunning. I've only seen them live once but it blew my mind - it was almost surreal.

Key 04-24-2012 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 1182232)
Yeah their visuals are stunning. I've only seen them live once but it blew my mind - it was almost surreal.

They had lasers and everything from what I remember. I loved the fact that they also light up the floor of the stage, so that it's not just the screens behind them, but the entire thing.

LoathsomePete 04-25-2012 08:52 PM

If anyone else is also looking for a new Tool-esque band you might want to check out the supergroup Soen. It's made up of Martin Lopez, former drummer from Opeth, Steve DiGiorgio bass player for Death/ Testament/ Iced Earth/ many other metal bands, Joel Ekelof vocals from Willowtree, and some guy called Kim Platbarzdis. Decent pedigree behind it and the music itself is a pretty top notch imitation of Tool and Opeth.


Key 04-25-2012 08:55 PM

^ Opus Dai is another band i'll recommend for that Tool-esque sound. The vocalist sounds a lot like Maynard Keenan.

Astronomer 04-26-2012 01:21 AM

I can't stand Soen... in fact I can't stand most bands that have vocalists that sound just like Keenan. I'd rather musicians find their own unique sound rather than be known for being 'imitations.'

If anyone here who is into Tool hasn't gotten into Karnivool already, they should :D

Mrd00d 04-26-2012 03:21 PM

Meh, besides Maynard related projects, if I want something close-ish to Tool, I try Rishloo. Tool is its own animal and nothing comes close, but this has the same tone about it at times. They're not going to be legendary, but they're fairly great. Try the track River of Glass.

TheBig3 04-26-2012 07:07 PM

Didn't want to lowball everyone and suggest earshot?


Earshot - Wait (Video) - YouTube

Capz1990 08-18-2012 10:35 AM

10,000 Days
 
I know this is really prog metal but i couldn't find a specific thread for that.

Was just wondering what everybody's opinion of the album 10,000 Days by Tool.

blastingas10 08-18-2012 10:39 AM

It's a good album. I've heard people say bad things about it but I dont think it's bad, not their best, but still pretty good.

Capz1990 08-18-2012 10:46 AM

to me it starts really strong and ends really strong, it gets a little lost in the middle but its book ended by good material

Key 08-18-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Capz1990 (Post 1220177)
I know this is really prog metal but i couldn't find a specific thread for that.

http://www.musicbanter.com/rock-meta...highlight=tool

Well that wasn't hard.

Capz1990 08-18-2012 10:50 AM

lmao
 
thanks, just joined... had no idea where that was

Scarlett O'Hara 12-26-2012 01:59 AM

Love, love, love Tool. I have their entire discography and never get tired of them.

Insane Guest 12-26-2012 01:40 PM

New album in 2013 must mean 2013 tour, coming here to the states as hinted by the band. First time seeing them live, have heard nothing but the best about their live shows.

Key 12-26-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lone Misfit (Post 1268186)
New album in 2013 must mean 2013 tour, coming here to the states as hinted by the band. First time seeing them live, have heard nothing but the best about their live shows.

I saw them a few years ago and they live up to the hype. Their live performance is superior to their studio albums, and that's saying something.

Rjinn 12-30-2012 02:28 AM

I love this band.

Love.

LOVE.

Just sayin'.
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Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 1182598)
I can't stand Soen... in fact I can't stand most bands that have vocalists that sound just like Keenan. I'd rather musicians find their own unique sound rather than be known for being 'imitations.'

If anyone here who is into Tool hasn't gotten into Karnivool already, they should :D

I dunno about Karnivool. They also sound like a complete rip-off of Tool to me. Lots of people down here are crazy about them. I don't really see them offering anything much else.

Ashir 12-30-2012 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 333 (Post 671438)
No one pays nearly enough attention to Jones, Carey or Chancellor.

So true. It's as if most people think Maynard plays all the instruments. He writes nothing more than his lyrics and plays nothing more than his vocal chords. He's an integral member of the band, but he himself admitted he was pretentious.

Still, the lyrics are usually amazing, but they are often too disguised and the meaning concealed by hackneyed metaphors. I'd prefer lyrics that just throw a meaning at my face, like Ed Gein. Blunt, sweet and short, straighttothepoint words right there. And quite funny, too.

Insane Guest 12-30-2012 03:00 PM

If you listen to Tool and don't praise Danny's drumming, you're doing something wrong...

TheBig3 12-30-2012 03:03 PM

I actually think Adam is my least favorite member. I have no problem with him, and I think he's a great guitarist but the other 3 blow me away.

P A N 12-30-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashir (Post 1269348)
So true. It's as if most people think Maynard plays all the instruments. He writes nothing more than his lyrics and plays nothing more than his vocal chords. He's an integral member of the band, but he himself admitted he was pretentious.

Still, the lyrics are usually amazing, but they are often too disguised and the meaning concealed by hackneyed metaphors. I'd prefer lyrics that just throw a meaning at my face, like Ed Gein. Blunt, sweet and short, straighttothepoint words right there. And quite funny, too.

danny carey gets a ton of attention. both in the drumming world and the music world in general. and maynard actually plays a huge role in the arrangements, and also plays guitar and synths.

he says he writes his lyrics in such a way that he's not telling people how to think. he uses a vast array of archetypes and metaphors so the listener can have their own unique, personal experience that is largely the result of their own perception. it can get pretty confusing at times, and maybe a little frustrating, but tool wouldn't be tool if it were any other way.

i've had a hard time trying to find another band that can touch what these guys do for me. they reach inside you and start fistf*cking your soul. i've seen them live four times, and it's almost strange that they ceaselessly outperform their recordings. their sound-crew is clearly among the most dedicated in the world. not to mention the visuals. i highly recommend going to one on psychedelics. i did. aside from the spiritual aspect of it, i danced with my eyes closed the whole time and was somehow able to reinvent my understanding of odd time signatures and their relation to groove. my head has never been the same since.

blastingas10 12-30-2012 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lone Misfit (Post 1268186)
New album in 2013 must mean 2013 tour, coming here to the states as hinted by the band. First time seeing them live, have heard nothing but the best about their live shows.

I've been hearing rumors for a long time, where did you hear that is was coming out next, for sure?

Rjinn 12-30-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1269486)
I've been hearing rumors for a long time, where did you hear that is was coming out next, for sure?

I've also heard it's been delayed. But I wouldn't count on it.


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