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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism (Post 1485287)

My stance on the whole Metallica vs. Megadeth debate has always simply been based around my belief that Megadeth is the better band. It has nothing to do with beef with Metallica for me. I feel that Mustaine is a better songwriter and frontman than James, and has more depth in his guitar playing than Kirk. I've also always believed that Lars is sort of a sloppy drummer. So I guess I'm also saying that Megadeth is comprised of better musicians as well. Although. Metallica are still comprised of great musicians too, save for Lars...he can play, but as I said...his playing has always sounded sloppy to me.

That's not what I'm talking about. I think Metallica is better for a variety of reasons, but I have tons of respect for Megadeth. In my experience, I can't say the same vice-versa for most Megadeth fans about Metallica.

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Originally Posted by LeHetfield James (Post 1485329)

That's mostly because of a misplaced sense of loyalty to Dave Mustaine. I imagine most of those people don't know what a cock he is.

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism (Post 1485287)

Also since we're talking Metallica vs. Megadeth...

I prefer Metallica to Megadeth. The first reason for this is because Metallica has a more brutal, thicker, and heavier sound. All of Metallica's riffs are downpicked. That by itself is awesome, but their riffs are a constant presence and the driving force of most of their songs, as opposed to blinding fast riffs Mustaine often plays that are not usually downpicked. It's a different style, and different songwriting. I'll take the intro to "Master of Puppets" to "Holy Wars..." 100% of the time.

There isn’t a single guitar solo in thrash metal that I like, so the fact that Mustaine often writes 4-5 mini-solos into his songs isn’t exactly something that I care for.

As far as songwriting, I just prefer Metallica's approach. Their instrumentals on their first four albums are very impressive, their lyrics are simplistic, and I find Metallica's albums are generally more well-structured and true to a theme than Megadeth's.

As far as Ulrich, I actually like that’s he’s a sub-par drummer, because he just plays in rhythm with the guitars, which makes the guitars more noticeable. Also, because Metallica does not emphasize speed much, Lars plays heavier. Can you name a more powerful beat than “Sad But True?” I can’t. The snare drum on that song is absolutely sensational.

tl;dr: I much prefer Metallica's heavier, slower sound to Megadeth's technical, faster sound.

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Originally Posted by LeHetfield James (Post 1485332)

As far as Ulrich, I actually like that’s he’s a sub-par drummer, because he just plays in rhythm with the guitars, which makes the guitars more noticeable. Also, because Metallica does not emphasize speed much, Lars plays heavier. Can you name a more powerful beat than “Sad But True?” I can’t. The snare drum on that song is absolutely sensational.

What's with people liking "Sad but True"? It's just a more boring version of "Harvester of Sorrow", which is heavier than dog****.

I dig some Megadeth, and I grew up on Metallica, but from a longevity standpoint, Metallica has more staying power. Mustaine and his drug addled behavior may have fueled his popularity, but really took it's toll on the music. Take a look at the past/current band members of both bands, and that'll put some things in perspective. It's hard to get chemistry going when you have a band with a revolving door. The one thing Dave had going for him was Marty Friedman, but he blew that. Friedman stated "Musical differences" for his reason to leave, but I'll bet money that the real reason was that Mustaine was just a dick.

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Originally Posted by LeHetfield James (Post 1485332)

All notable points.

It's also the perfect example of a difference of opinion expressed in an ideal way. Makes it easy for a conversation to flow without opinions clashing to the point of causing offense.

I'll say that the guys in Metallica could have gotten a drummer that does everything Ulrich already does, but better. I understand that the guys felt that Ulrich was perfect for what they wanted to achieve, I mean obviously the formula or idea behind the band has worked with mostly original members, save for the never forgotten Cliff Burton, tragic...and Jason Newsted was not at all a half bad bass player, he's actually a pretty accomplished one. I'll always prefer him over Rob Trujillo. Not to say Rob isn't any good, because he's great.

And aside from what I already mentioned for my reasoning behind saying I prefer Mustaine of Hetfield, I really cannot think of any other reasons. Mustaine has his issues, he's always been unstable and hard to work with. But underneath all of that is a great musician. I might go back and listen to all of the earlier Metallica material and compare it to some of Megadeths earlier catalog, my opinion of the two bands could have changed a bit over the years from not really paying attention to either band since maybe 2005.

Like there's any of those, even Slayer, that didn't eventually sell out and/or put out a sh*tty album.

I'm definitely not a Mustaine fan but even Megadeth had their moments.

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1679262)

Like there's any of those, even Slayer, that didn't eventually sell out and/or put out a sh*tty album.

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Agreed. Coming from a fan of Metallica and slayer who really hasnt cared much for the other two of the "big four" this is very accurate.

The whole Megadeth vs. Metallica thing is just silly. Do people really have nothing better to do than to be militant fanboys over a band?