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Unknown Soldier 06-23-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LOLPOCALYPSE (Post 1202534)
Personally I don't see much metal in the FNM album. Regardless, my vote goes easily to Prong. For me, songs like "Snap your fingers, snap your neck" are much better than nearly all of Angel Dust. I also like the industrial touches in Cleansing. I can hear a little bit of Killing Joke in there. It really does sound like an alternative METAL album.

Prong - 1
FNM - 3

I actually think the metal elements in Angel Dust are quite noticeable.

The Batlord 06-23-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1202572)
I actually think the metal elements in Angel Dust are quite noticeable.

Me too. It's actually pretty refreshing to hear a metal album that can be as metal as it feels like at any given moment, and isn't restricted by even the vaguest notions of genre. It gives me hope that, even if metal has reached it's high water mark, at least it can continue in other kinds of music.

I really love both albums, and will have to give them both some more attention before I vote. It's hard to vote, because some of the songs on The Cleansing are just devastating, but Angel Dust is just so strong through out.

Unknown Soldier 06-23-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1202578)
Me too. It's actually pretty refreshing to hear a metal album that can be as metal as it feels like at any given moment, and isn't restricted by even the vaguest notions of genre. It gives me hope that, even if metal has reached it's high water mark, at least it can continue in other kinds of music.

I really love both albums, and will have to give them both some more attention before I vote. It's hard to vote, because some of the songs on The Cleansing are just devastating, but Angel Dust is just so strong through out.

I'm going to listen to the Cleansing a bit after, have only heard it once and remember jack shit about it.

LoathsomePete 06-23-2012 11:49 AM

I'm going to go with Faith No More on this one. I've never been a Prong fan and I've tried The Cleansing before back when I was trying to get into the band but it just didn't fly and time has not changed my mind at all.

Faith No More - 4
Prong - 1

Janszoon 06-23-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1202572)
I actually think the metal elements in Angel Dust are quite noticeable.

Yeah, I wouldn't even describe it as having "metal elements". It's a metal album with a few non-metal elements.

Unknown Soldier 06-23-2012 03:25 PM

The Cleansing is a very good album, I need to re-listen to Prong again, they're real man's metal band, nothing sissy about this bunch:laughing: This stuff pummels and takes no prisoners. As Lopocalypse said "Snap Your Fingers..." is a great song with a big Killing Joke influence in it. The problem is though, that Angel Dust is one of the great albums of the 1990s in terms of creativity, its a shame that this Prong album has been matched against it.

Faith No More -5
Prong -1

Frownland 06-24-2012 10:58 AM

That Prong album is really good, but like it's been said, it's hard for me to go against FNM and it's kind of an uphill battle for Cleansing.

Faith No More -6
Prong -1

Unknown Soldier 06-26-2012 03:41 AM

Prong aren't coming back here so its 6-1 and Faith No More go on to the final round where they face White Zombie.

Faith No More Angel Dust 1992
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0...ront_super.jpg

Versus

White Zombie Astrocreep 2000 1995

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BfQfWU5hKJ...Creep+2000.jpg

BastardofYoung 06-26-2012 03:49 AM

You know. I can still listen to that White Zombie album to this day. It is just a fun carnival ride of an alt-metal record. It has great elements of theatrics and reminds me of some b-horror greatness. Has such a charm to it still for me. One of my favorite releases of the 90's.

As I say, I think FNM are overrated, yeah, they had a few moments here and there, but why they are treated like gods is beyond me.

So I have to go with White Zombie on this one. Has so many elements I love. It is what I think Rob Zombie is trying to do with his movies.... but done right. It is fun, and at the same time heavy.

White Zombie -1
FNM - 0

Janszoon 06-26-2012 04:10 AM

Once again, an easy choice. Astro-Creep has a few good songs on but it's one of those albums that just goes on and on for far too long with far too much filler, not to mention it frequently comes off as a poor man's Ministry. I've owned it since it came out and only managed to sit through it in its entirety a handful of times. Angel Dust by contrast tastes great, no filler. And it's definitely its own animal.

White Zombie -1
FNM - 1

Howard the Duck 06-26-2012 05:59 AM

no contest here at all

Astro-Creep has some of my best out-of-teens memories associated with it, and has some awesome bass riffs, and you can dance to it

Angel Dust was a horrible comedown after the Real Thing, and remember, i got rid of it shortly after i bought it

White Zombie - 2
FNM - 1

The Batlord 06-26-2012 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1203427)
You know. I can still listen to that White Zombie album to this day. It is just a fun carnival ride of an alt-metal record. It has great elements of theatrics and reminds me of some b-horror greatness. Has such a charm to it still for me. One of my favorite releases of the 90's.

This. And I would add that on this album, Rob Zombie just sounds like a half coherent, drugged out, prophet of Satan, proclaiming the end of human civilization and the ascendancy of the devil, not as a conqueror, but as a hero. Yeah.

White Zombie - 3
FNM - 1

Unknown Soldier 06-26-2012 08:32 AM

I was thinking that I was probably going to be the only person voting for White Zombie on here, but it seems I'm wrong. Its not that the White Zombie is better than the FNM album in any way, but its just so much more fun. When I hear the FNM album, I hear a creative watermark for 90s metal in terms of diversity and song craft, when I hear White Zombie its an adventure in metal that always brings a big smile to my face..........bring on those B-movies.

White Zombie -4
FNM -1

Janszoon 06-26-2012 08:51 AM

Four crazy people have voted so far I see.

Unknown Soldier 06-26-2012 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1203451)
Four clever people and one crazy have voted so far I see.

Fixed.

BTW I hope the walkers get you.

The Batlord 06-26-2012 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1203447)
I was thinking that I was probably going to be the only person voting for White Zombie on here, but it seems I'm wrong. Its not that the White Zombie is better than the FNM album in any way, but its just so much more fun. When I hear the FNM album, I hear a creative watermark for 90s metal in terms of diversity and song craft, when I hear White Zombie its an adventure in metal that always brings a big smile to my face..........bring on those B-movies.

Not to mention some of the best riffs of the 90's. I don't care who you are, the main riffs to "Devilman" and "Blur the Technicolor" are just some of the best things since sliced bread.

Janszoon 06-26-2012 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1203452)
Fixed.

BTW I hope the walkers get you.

If clever people love filler that much I'm happy to be crazy.

Unknown Soldier 06-26-2012 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1203458)
If clever people love filler that much I'm happy to be crazy.

And you'll make exellent filler for a walker.

Janszoon 06-26-2012 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1203473)
And you'll make exellent filler for a walker.

Easy there Shane. We all know who the real leader of this group is.

Howard the Duck 06-26-2012 09:15 AM

bottom line is:-

Astro-Creep is fun

Angel Dust is dull

Janszoon 06-26-2012 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1203484)
bottom line is:-

Astro-Creep is fun

Angel Dust is dull

Is today opposite day and I missed the memo?

Unknown Soldier 06-26-2012 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1203478)
Easy there Shane. We all know who the real leader of this group is.

Guess what, I've got the first 68 issues of the comic to read:D

The Batlord 06-26-2012 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1203452)
Fixed.

BTW I hope the walkers get you.

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1203473)
And you'll make exellent filler for a walker.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1203478)
Easy there Shane. We all know who the real leader of this group is.

The fuck are you douchetards talking about?! :confused:

Unknown Soldier 06-26-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1203499)
The fuck are you douchetards talking about?! :confused:

Guess who's about to knock at your door!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BpCMbeavpi...-111510-lg.jpg

Yes, it really is uncle Roy.

The Batlord 06-26-2012 09:27 AM

You know you Brits really need to take better care of your teeth.

Unknown Soldier 06-26-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1203513)
You know you Brits really need to take better care of your teeth.

Oh man don't mention our teeth! Buts its better than walking around looking like this all day.

http://lwittren.files.wordpress.com/...rom_braces.jpg

BastardofYoung 06-26-2012 12:19 PM

Astro Creep also has one of my favorite album openers all the time.



This, into "Syper-Changer Heaven" = amazing. That alone warrants my vote.

Janszoon 06-26-2012 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1203598)
Astro Creep also has one of my favorite album openers all the time.

...

This, into "Syper-Changer Heaven" = amazing. That alone warrants my vote.

Eh. That's one of the better songs on Astro-Creep I agree, but it's pretty hard to beat "Land of Sunshine" as an album opener. I've always loved how abruptly it starts. It's like a kick in the nuts to start things off in the right mood.

LoathsomePete 06-26-2012 01:22 PM

I'm going to have to go with White Zombie on this one because it adds a much needed dose of levity to the metal scene, particularly at a time when there was so much controversy surrounding the church arson's and murder in Norway. Zombie's love of B-horror movies shines through and it actually did get me a little more interested in the subgenre of film as I tried to find where the original soundclips came from.

As much as I love FNM, my favourite album from them is King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime and while Angel Dust is a great album, I just don't see myself going back to it all that often.

White Zombie - 5
Faith No More - 1

The Batlord 06-27-2012 08:19 AM

Good lord. I expected FNM to clean up on this battle, but White Zombie is destroying it and making it bear it's rape children!

Janszoon 06-27-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1203620)
I'm going to have to go with White Zombie on this one because it adds a much needed dose of levity to the metal scene, particularly at a time when there was so much controversy surrounding the church arson's and murder in Norway. Zombie's love of B-horror movies shines through and it actually did get me a little more interested in the subgenre of film as I tried to find where the original soundclips came from.

Heh. That's funny because I remember reading in an interview with Rob Zombie back when Astro-Creep came out about how they had to create a bunch of fake movie samples for the album after all the legal issues they ran into with the samples on La Sexorcisto.

LoathsomePete 06-27-2012 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1203886)
Heh. That's funny because I remember reading in an interview with Rob Zombie back when Astro-Creep came out about how they had to create a bunch of fake movie samples for the album after all the legal issues they ran into with the samples on La Sexorcisto.

I guess that explains why I never really found many... well that and my own laziness.

LOLPOCALYPSE 06-27-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1203484)
bottom line is:-

Astro-Creep is fun

Angel Dust is dull

This.

WZ - 6
FNM - 1

Janszoon 06-27-2012 01:34 PM

It's opposite day today too?

BastardofYoung 06-27-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1203615)
Eh. That's one of the better songs on Astro-Creep I agree, but it's pretty hard to beat "Land of Sunshine" as an album opener. I've always loved how abruptly it starts. It's like a kick in the nuts to start things off in the right mood.

I like how Electric Head opens more. Listened to that FNM song... it was good. But I love how the start of the album is just a build up... starting with creepy footsteps... and eventually building to one of the best riffs on the album. The start of that song is brilliant and sets up the b-horror elements perfectly.

To me, I love Astro Creep... it is heavy, thrashy and full of exploitation... like watching Basket Case or Re-Animator... it takes pride in how trashy it is... and that makes it even better for me. Takes itself just seriously enough, but also has a humor to it... like Evil Dead II type stuff.

This album just makes me think of those classic horror movies.. Basket Case, Re-Animator, Evil Dead... and on and on...

That is why I love it so. That FNM album = meh.

Unknown Soldier 06-27-2012 04:26 PM

Well this war has one more day, so the votes need to come in for FNM. Next up will be Frownland's delayed war.

Mrd00d 06-27-2012 07:11 PM

Ungh, I really like both albums. I love Patton's rendition of Easy. I think Land of Sunshine is not only a great opener but a great track, period. Midlife Crisis is solid - I love the change-up in the middle. Be Aggressive... is pretty cool.

But I gotta go with Zombie.

7-1
White Zombie

Sorry Jans.

Although that nonsense about Angel Dust being dull is nonsense.

Janszoon 06-27-2012 07:17 PM

The results so far:

Skateboard - 7
Time-Traveling Flying DeLorean - 1

BastardofYoung 06-27-2012 07:21 PM

I'd pick the skateboard. I mean the DeLorean is cool all and all, but in all reality I imagine running on plutonium would be too expensive for my blood.

Janszoon 06-27-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1204137)
I'd pick the skateboard. I mean the DeLorean is cool all and all, but in all reality I imagine running on plutonium would be too expensive for my blood.

The flying DeLorean was powered by garbage via Mr. Fusion.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/di.../mr-fusion.jpg


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