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Howard the Duck 07-23-2012 01:35 AM

ok i have to admit i was having a hard time getting into Earth

this album sorta clicked with me better yesterday, as i really concentrated on it and got its "nuances"

with 3 songs all around the 20 minute mark or longer, it doesn't really get "boring", as there are a lot of strange things going on, and the opening track "Seven Angels" does have a pretty solid riff

saying that, though, i do have major problems with the guitar tones throughout, Dylan uses too much flanger and the tone in itself is whiny and reedy, unlike say Sunn O))) which uses really "fat" tones

so I'll give this to Naked City on a technical issue alone, and also because Leng Tch'e is on the whole a much more interesting listen

Naked City - 1
Earth - 0

Janszoon 07-25-2012 05:29 AM

I like that Earth album and have owned it for a long time, but truth be told, when I started thinking about it I realized I haven't listened to it in about half a decade. Thinking about this some more, I realized that it's probably my least favorite Earth album, in large part due to what Howard mentioned about the guitar tone. So anyway, I'm voting Naked City.

Naked City - 2
Earth - 0

Unknown Soldier 07-25-2012 12:27 PM

I liked the Earth album but thought at times it just sounded too monotonous, what it did do very well though, was to present a menacing and brooding sound, something I actually prefer over the bleak sounding landscapes of black metal.
Naked City -3
Eart -0

Unknown Soldier 07-29-2012 04:02 PM

I'm guessing there are no more votes coming in here, so Naked City and Leng Tch'e wrap this up. Also thanks to Frownland for coming up with the Drone Metal showdown, as its a sub-genre that's not often mentioned much on the metal boards.

Unknown Soldier 07-29-2012 04:13 PM

Ok before I ask somebody to come up with a topic and some albums, here is a quick battle by me (just 4 albums)

The Best Album That Metallica Never Released;)

As the title suggests, here are four albums that were done by bands who very much had their own style, but for an album or two adopted a James Hetfield style bark to their sound, added Metallica style riffs into the mix, or just had a Metallica type feel to their sound, usually for commercial reasons. These albums though imo, are still great metal releases and great homages to classic era Metallica.

Iced Earth The Dark Saga 1996
http://www.mediaboom.org/uploads/pos..._dark_saga.jpg

Versus

Corrosion of Conformity Blind 1991
http://www.purerockradio.net/request...mity-Blind.jpg

Janszoon 07-30-2012 06:31 PM

Anyone else having kind of a hard time finding that CoC album?

Frownland 07-30-2012 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1213516)
Anyone else having kind of a hard time finding that CoC album?

I have it, I'll send a link to you and anyone else who's interested.

Janszoon 07-30-2012 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1213525)
I have it, I'll send a link to you and anyone else who's interested.

Gracias!

pickleinmypants 07-30-2012 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1089832)
Time to place my vote here as well and to be fair The Batlord summed it up perfectly, as I also love the Saxon album with a passion but the Maiden album is perfect with its punk and metal mixture. Had Saxon come up against any other metal album of that time period I`m certain Saxon would have won.

Iron Maiden 3
Saxon 1

Bon jovi and GnR.
bon jovis in the best still because like i went and watched their concert and they are still amazing :P

Blarobbarg 07-31-2012 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pickleinmypants (Post 1213558)
Bon jovi and GnR.
bon jovis in the best still because like i went and watched their concert and they are still amazing :P

You're doing it wrong.

BastardofYoung 07-31-2012 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1213516)
Anyone else having kind of a hard time finding that CoC album?

Soulseek..... is the answer ;)

Howard the Duck 07-31-2012 12:43 AM

not really in a metal mood currently

will give both a spin later

almauro 07-31-2012 08:27 AM

"Blind" is a transition record for COC. They advertised for and got a new singer who sounds like Hetfield, but they also brought in Pepper Keenan who sings in a more stoner-southern-retro-rock style, which is the direction they ended up. IMO,it's a great collection of songs, but it's not exactly cohesive.

'"Dark Saga", is a short and sweet melodic thrash album, or what some refer to US Power Metal. It's pretty straight forward, but Barlow is phenomenal on this records, and he knocks the final ballad out of the park. This album has a great arch, that keeps my interest all the way through.

Dark Saga - 1
Blind - 0

Unknown Soldier 07-31-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1213516)
Anyone else having kind of a hard time finding that CoC album?

The whole album is also on You Tube


Corrosion of Conformity - Blind (1991) (Full Album) - YouTube

Janszoon 07-31-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1213696)

Thanks! I wound up tracking it down. :)

Janszoon 08-01-2012 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ahojvole (Post 1213979)
How about Kiss, no one?

Kiss are the classic ones really

Kiss aren't part of this war. Please read the first post in this thread for info on how this thread works.

Unknown Soldier 08-02-2012 12:27 PM

As I selected both these album, I pretty much love both of them. This is one of my favourite COC album but as Alamuro stated its not exactly cohesive at times, but there are some stellar knock-out tracks on the album such as "Dance of the Dead" and "Vote With a Bullet" I just wished they'd kept with Karl Agell on lead vocals, rather than just going with the more retro-blues stuff that Pepper Keenan led the band into on the next album (even though I also love most of the following albums as well)

The Dark Saga is a special album for me, those Metallica style riffs perfectly executed by both Jon Schaffer and Randall Shawfer are killer stuff, but its the vocals of Matt Barlow that provide the killer touch on this album. The whole album is so cohesive and stands as one the best albums they ever put out.

Dark Saga -2
Blind -0

Janszoon 08-07-2012 12:19 PM

I like CoC a lot but weirdly enough had never even heard of Blind before. It certainly does seem like a transitional album—and I prefer their later, more southern-rock influenced work—but I still enjoyed it a lot.

The Iced Earth album, on the other hand, didn't really click with me. Musically, it was okay but the guy's voice kind of ruined it for me.

Dark Saga: 2
Blind: 1

Unknown Soldier 08-07-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1216084)
The Iced Earth album, on the other hand, didn't really click with me. Musically, it was okay but the guy's voice kind of ruined it for me.

...but you don't like power metal, so I guessed you'd vote COC.

Janszoon 08-07-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1216105)
...but you don't like power metal, so I guessed you'd vote COC.

Are Iced Earth considered power metal? This album was the first time I've ever listened to them.

Key 08-07-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1216115)
Are Iced Earth considered power metal? This album was the first time I've ever listened to them.

I would say that Iced Earth are power metal as well. From what i've heard from them anyway.

Unknown Soldier 08-07-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1216115)
Are Iced Earth considered power metal? This album was the first time I've ever listened to them.

Of course, they're one of the premier power metal acts over the last 15 years or so.

Janszoon 08-07-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1216123)
Of course, they're one of the premier power metal acts over the last 15 years or so.

Hm, I had no idea.

Unknown Soldier 08-07-2012 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1216126)
Hm, I had no idea.

Quite often American power metal bands sound very distinct to their European cousins, its usually the harder-edged feel and thrashy elements that they have, but you always know a power metal band when you hear one;)

Janszoon 08-07-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1216128)
Quite often American power metal bands sound very distinct to their European cousins, its usually the harder-edged feel and thrashy elements that they have, but you always know a power metal band when you hear one;)

Not me apparently. So are Iced Earth American or European?

Unknown Soldier 08-07-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1216129)
Not me apparently. So are Iced Earth American or European?

Hell American and from sunny Florida. The reference about knowing a power metal band when you hear one, is for lovers of power metal.

Janszoon 08-07-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1216131)
Hell American and from sunny Florida. The reference about knowing a power metal band when you hear one, is for lovers of power metal.

Hell American?

Unknown Soldier 08-07-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1216132)
Hell American?

It means they're American and also great, I never realized you Americans spoke a different language;)

Janszoon 08-07-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1216134)
It means they're American and also great, I never realized you Americans spoke a different language;)

We do, one which involves using commas where appropriate. :p:

Unknown Soldier 08-07-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1216135)
We do, one which involves using commas where appropriate. :p:

My commas are appropriate, nobody has ever complained about them before. I got through both a degree and masters with commas littered all around the place.:laughing:

Janszoon 08-07-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1216137)
My commas are appropriate, nobody has ever complained about them before. I got through both a degree and masters with commas littered all around the place.:laughing:

Did the landlord complain?

Unknown Soldier 08-07-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1216139)
Did the landlord complain?

Anyway the score stands.
Dark Saga -2
Blind -1

The Batlord 08-09-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1216139)
Did the landlord complain?

I heard he threw a total exclamation point.

Janszoon 08-09-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1216781)
I heard he threw a total exclamation point.

Sounds like he had something up his colon.

The Batlord 08-09-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1216783)
Sounds like he had something up his colon.

Maybe his wife was just on her period. That'll make anyone edgy.

Howard the Duck 08-09-2012 08:59 AM

having heard before, i'll give to CoC cos it's less annoying

also, I hate Spawn

Dark Saga - 2
Blind - 2

Unknown Soldier 08-09-2012 03:32 PM

Ok somebody now needs to break the deadlock.

hip hop bunny hop 08-09-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1216899)
Ok somebody now needs to break the deadlock.

On it :D

The Batlord 08-10-2012 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1217034)
On it :D

:rofl:

This should be good.

Janszoon 08-10-2012 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1217102)
:rofl:

This should be good.

I think he's going to vote CoC.


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