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Rjinn 08-25-2012 01:09 AM

I'm not really a fan of both. Pyromania sounds a little more cheesy and less exciting to me than Out of the Cellar. So I'm going with Ratt here.

Howard the Duck 08-25-2012 01:19 AM

"Hysteria" is the better Def Leppard album so Ratt for me as well.

Ratt - 2
Def Leppard - 1

The Batlord 08-25-2012 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1223167)
*puts on spandex*

*pinches Janszoon's bottom*

hip hop bunny hop 08-25-2012 02:25 PM

wtf, Def Leppard doesn't have that record on spotify :(

Engine 08-26-2012 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1223012)
This war seemed too tacky for some on here and for the first time in MB history, the voting actually went into negative figures:laughing: before I steadied the boat. Now I'd like to say that things are going to get better, but sadly no,

Actually, I was quite excited to see this new competition. Reason being that 'Pyromania' was very important to me at one time. When I was in the 5th grade, I traded some kid one of my favorite G.I. Joe action figures for the vinyl and it was one of the first pieces of music that I actually listened to all on my own. For curious geeks it was Wild Bill who I traded..
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNj...(Wg~~60_35.JPG
which, at the time, was only available with the purchase of his helicopter, the Dragonfly, and so was quite a commodity to an 80s kid.

Also, I used to like Ratt so, even though I haven't listened to either of these for probably 20 years (at least) I thought I'd give this contest an honest shot. Here are the results:

I listened to both albums before making my choice. 1st I put on Pyromania and was pleasantly surprised with the first track, "Rock! Rock! ('Til You Drop)" because it was sorta heavy. The rest of the album, though, was boring to say the least. While the band was clearly skilled the album is laden with soft rock numbers peppered with moments of love ballad, lighters-in-the-air moments throughout. Even within each song. I couldn't wait to make it stop, which it did after a very difficult 45 minutes of my life.

Then I listened to 'Out of the Cellar' and was truly horrified. This album sucks dick big time. For a band that prided itself on its sexual prowess, they sure made a hell of a limp-dick piece of shit album this time around. It pretty much all blended together with its Heavy Metal Lite riffs and Peter Searcy's monotonous screechy cock rock vocals.

I even re-listened to Pyromania again just to make sure how bad the Ratt album is. I was correct. Def Leppard is boring as hell on this album but they have some style and creativity at least.

Def Leppard: 2
Ratt: 2

Unknown Soldier 08-26-2012 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1223606)
Actually, I was quite excited to see this new competition. Reason being that 'Pyromania' was very important to me at one time. When I was in the 5th grade, I traded some kid one of my favorite G.I. Joe action figures for the vinyl and it was one of the first pieces of music that I actually listened to all on my own. For curious geeks it was Wild Bill who I traded..
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNj...(Wg~~60_35.JPG
which, at the time, was only available with the purchase of his helicopter, the Dragonfly, and so was quite a commodity to an 80s kid.

Also, I used to like Ratt so, even though I haven't listened to either of these for probably 20 years (at least) I thought I'd give this contest an honest shot. Here are the results:

I listened to both albums before making my choice. 1st I put on Pyromania and was pleasantly surprised with the first track, "Rock! Rock! ('Til You Drop)" because it was sorta heavy. The rest of the album, though, was boring to say the least. While the band was clearly skilled the album is laden with soft rock numbers peppered with moments of love ballad, lighters-in-the-air moments throughout. Even within each song. I couldn't wait to make it stop, which it did after a very difficult 45 minutes of my life.

Then I listened to 'Out of the Cellar' and was truly horrified. This album sucks dick big time. For a band that prided itself on its sexual prowess, they sure made a hell of a limp-dick piece of shit album this time around. It pretty much all blended together with its Heavy Metal Lite riffs and Peter Searcy's monotonous screechy cock rock vocals.

I even re-listened to Pyromania again just to make sure how bad the Ratt album is. I was correct. Def Leppard is boring as hell on this album but they have some style and creativity at least.

Def Leppard: 2
Ratt: 2

I used to collect Star Wars figures back in the 1980s, action man and lone ranger as well:) I know the Def Leppard album so well, but will give the Ratt album a listen, haven't heard it in years.

almauro 08-26-2012 05:42 AM

Pyromania, the last good Def Leppard record before they turned into complete pop sh****t.

Def Leppard: 3
Ratt: 2

Necromancer 08-26-2012 07:03 AM

Ratt is my choice for being a little more hard rocking than Def Leppard. Nobody Rides For Free is one of my favorite singles by Ratt. Def Leppard had a better debut though. Photograph is my personal fav song by them. I cant believe I actuaky liked Pour Some Sugar On Me years ago. ha, ha! Ratt - 3 Def Leppard - 3

Unknown Soldier 08-26-2012 07:38 AM

Jeez I'm shocked to see Ratt doing so well here. I actually suggested the Ratt debut to The Batlord, as he was getting all hot and bothered over which albums to choose and as always I was glad to give the kid a hand on these things so I threw in Ratt.

As for the albums, Pyromania is one of the most important commercial metal sounding albums ever made and possibly the best. The band tightened up all the hooks from their previous release High N Dry and struck gold with Pyro. There's hardly a duff track on the whole album, "Action Not Words" is the only weak link on the album. Like Number of the Beast and British Steel, Pyromania was a landmark metal release from the 1980s and deserves all its plaudits. The Ratt album is good and in fact prior to recording I think the band must have been listening to a lot of Def Leppard themselves its that influenced by Def Leppard. The singing is different by Stephen Pearcy and the riffs are far more infused with that LA sleaze sound so typical of the time. But the album is still a notch down from Pyro, so there is only one winner here.

Def Leppard -4
Ratt -3

The Batlord 08-27-2012 08:50 AM

Out of the Cellar has some great riffs, but other than that, there's not much there. The songs are heavy enough to satisfy ("Lack of Communication" simply crushes), but there's not really much interesting going on. It's certainly great fun listening to this album, but they seem to be a one trick pony.

Pyromania on the other hand, isn't the heaviest album on Earth in case you hadn't noticed, but the hooks on this album are to die for. Saying that this band is pop metal like it's an insult is missing the point entirely. This band's pop hooks are simply devastating, and I am in awe that they manage shove a near infinite number of them down your unworthy throats, without ever seeming to be in danger of running out of them, for forty five minutes straight.

Def Leppard - 5
Ratt - 3

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1223606)

I think "Wild Bill" has something he needs to tell his parents. :laughing:

Unknown Soldier 08-27-2012 09:34 AM

Are you voting for other people like Wild Bill? because the score should be:

Def Leppard -5
Ratt -3

The Batlord 08-27-2012 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1224081)
Are you voting for other people like Wild Bill? because the score should be:

Def Leppard -5
Ratt -3

Oops. Good lookin', nig nog (note: this should be understood to be the English use, meaning a silly person.)

Janszoon 08-27-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1224081)
Are you voting for other people like Wild Bill? because the score should be:

Def Leppard -5
Ratt -3

Man, negative numbers again!? :p:

Anyway... I guess I'm voting Def Leppard. Both of these albums, as is generally the case with this type of music, felt just sort of okay to me. Neither was horrible but neither really grabbed me. Pyromania did have several songs that I knew on it though and they made we a little nostalgic so that gives it the leg up.

Def Leppard - 6
Ratt - 3

Unknown Soldier 08-27-2012 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1224281)
Man, negative numbers again!? :p:

Anyway... I guess I'm voting Def Leppard. Both of these albums, as is generally the case with this type of music, felt just sort of okay to me. Neither was horrible but neither really grabbed me. Pyromania did have several songs that I knew on it though and they made we a little nostalgic so that gives it the leg up.

Def Leppard - 6
Ratt - 3

How well do you know the Def Leppard album and when did you first hear it? I first heard back in the mid 1980s and it was so revered back then and was held in the same esteem as anything put out by Iron Maiden. In fact they were the first group along with Van Halen and the Scorpions that got me into metal. Pyromania was also one of the biggest selling metal albums of the 1980s.

Janszoon 08-27-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1224292)
How well do you know the Def Leppard album and when did you first hear it? I first heard back in the mid 1980s and it was so revered back then and was held in the same esteem as anything put out by Iron Maiden. In fact they were the first group along with Van Halen and the Scorpions that got me into metal. Pyromania was also one of the biggest selling metal albums of the 1980s.

I'm not sure if I've ever listened to the entire thing all the way through until today to be honest. Obviously I knew the singles off of it, and my brother and cousins were into it back when it was new, so I'm sure I heard bits and pieces of it, but I was like 5 or 6 when it came out so it's not like I was sitting around listening to the whole thing on my own.

Blarobbarg 08-27-2012 04:29 PM

I know I don't often participate in the club, but I feel I must this time.

I cannot stand Ratt. When I think "worst bands/artists of all time" Ratt is near the top (bottom?) of that list. Leppard, though not my favorite band by any means, have some merit, this album in particular. Thus, the point goes to Def Leppard.

Def Leppard - 7
Ratt - 3

FRED HALE SR. 08-27-2012 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blarobbarg (Post 1224305)
I know I don't often participate in the club, but I feel I must this time.

I cannot stand Ratt. When I think "worst bands/artists of all time" Ratt is near the top (bottom?) of that list. Leppard, though not my favorite band by any means, have some merit, this album in particular. Thus, the point goes to Def Leppard.

Def Leppard - 7
Ratt - 3

Def Leppard Pyromania was the second CD I ever owned after Thompson Twins Into the Gap. LOL I loved this album at the time, but it has aged just as bad as Out of the Cellar. I certainly give Pyromania more points then Out of the Cellar. If it ultimately came down to why i'd say the vocals are better for Leppard and I prefer their rythym guitar section better albeit Demartini is better at soloing.

Def Leppard 8
Ratt 3

LOLPOCALYPSE 08-27-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1224088)
Oops. Good lookin', nig nog (note: this should be understood to be the English use, meaning a silly person.)

I don't recall this ever being acceptable to say in public.

Oh, and yes, I use it too.

The Batlord 08-28-2012 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LOLPOCALYPSE (Post 1224434)
I don't recall this ever being acceptable to say in public.

Oh, and yes, I use it too.

I don't recall it ever being used in public before. I just remember a friend of mine calling me that one day, and I thought it was a fun word.

Howard the Duck 08-28-2012 09:03 AM

"gollywog" is a funnier racial slur

Unknown Soldier 08-28-2012 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1224584)
I don't recall it ever being used in public before. I just remember a friend of mine calling me that one day, and I thought it was a fun word.

Its considered a racial slur here in the UK, but I don't think I've ever heard it used though.

Plankton 08-28-2012 09:54 AM

I had both of these in the 80's, and I think I burned the Pyro one at some point. It was a time when there were sides to take and lines to be drawn. The true rockers went with Ratt, and anyone who listened to Def Leppard was considered a pansy. As absurd as this sounds, it's just how things were at that time around my group of friends. I remember trying to learn the dual guitar solo on Round & Round, with little success at that time, but always thought it to be one of the highlights of the album. I even went and bought the follow up to that since it had Lay It Down, which to me is their best tune out of anything they've ever done.

These days I've grown to really like Def Leppard, and have "seen the light" as they say. I've made some compilation CD's that are chock full of tunes from Pyro, and genuinely enjoy the guitar riffs, and glistening production on them. I've pretty much abandoned Ratt and can't stand anything I used to like these days... meh, people change.. oh, and I can remember when Def Leppard could still hear too.

Def Leppard 9
Ratt 3

Janszoon 08-28-2012 11:10 AM

Uh-oh, I think teenage Plankton would have given teenage Unknown Soldier a wedgie. :laughing:

The Batlord 08-28-2012 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1224657)
Uh-oh, I think teenage Plankton would have given teenage Unknown Soldier a wedgie. :laughing:

Something tells me the denizens of this site have all had their experiences with wedgies.

Unknown Soldier 08-28-2012 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1224657)
Uh-oh, I think teenage Plankton would have given teenage Unknown Soldier a wedgie. :laughing:

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1224660)
Something tells me the denizens of this site have all had their experiences with wedgies.

You guys have been watching too many National Lampoons and Police Academy films.

Key 08-28-2012 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1224673)
You guys have been watching too many National Lampoons and Police Academy films.

*throws pie at you*

Janszoon 08-28-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1224673)
You guys have been watching too many National Lampoons and Police Academy films.

I'm not actually sure I've seen an entire Police Academy police.

Unknown Soldier 08-28-2012 02:25 PM

So its back down into the cellar for the Ratt, as the Leppard outsprints them;) I know that should be a Cheetah but what the heck. Next up are Dee Snider & Co.

Def Leppard Pyromania 1983
http://img.snowrecords.com/lp/1/4090.jpg

Versus

Twisted Sister Stay Hungry 1984

http://img.snowrecords.com/lp/1/1644.jpg

Key 08-28-2012 02:26 PM

Def Leppard. I can't stand Twisted Sister for some reason.

Def Leppard - 1
Twisted Sister - 0

Janszoon 08-28-2012 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1224830)
So its back down into the cellar for the Ratt, as the Leppard outsprints them;) I know that should be a Cheetah but what the heck. Next up are Dee Snider & Co.

I'm sure Leopards are faster than rats anyway. :laughing:

And I'm super excited that I don't have to go track down any albums for this round!

FRED HALE SR. 08-28-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1224832)
Def Leppard. I can't stand Twisted Sister for some reason.

Def Leppard - 1
Twisted Sister - 0


Twisted Sister for me, I love that album. Twisted Sister was actually a pretty good rock n roll band. I blame MTV for making them a parody act, when I saw them live they were an amazing live act.

Def Leppard - 1
Twisted Sister - 1

Unknown Soldier 08-28-2012 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1224832)
Def Leppard. I can't stand Twisted Sister for some reason.

Def Leppard - 1
Twisted Sister - 0

That's because Dee looks better in eye-liner and lippy than you do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1224833)
I'm sure Leopards are faster than rats anyway. :laughing:

And I'm super excited that I don't have to go track down any albums for this round!

I haven't heard that TS album in years. I'm looking forward to a nice and sleazy experience

Key 08-28-2012 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1224842)
That's because Dee looks better in eye-liner and lippy than you do.

:(

Trollheart 08-28-2012 05:33 PM

Da Leps for me too, if only for "Die hard the hunter". The only Leppard album I every got (apart from a vinyl copy of "Vault" which I still haven't listened to even once) and although I had the TS album (well, my brother did) and I liked it, it doesn't compare to the hooks and melodies on "Pyromania".

Yeah, plankton woulda kicked my ass too, but I would have stolen his girlfriend! :D:D:D:pimp::bringit:

Janszoon 08-28-2012 07:53 PM

It's funny, I feel like the production style on each of these albums really says a lot about the two bands. Pyromania is crisp and clean and meticulously put together. Stay Hungry sounds like it was recorded inside a toilet bowl. I appreciate the slick, shiny pop of Def Leppard, but the low down punky shit of Twisted Sister is a lot more entertaining. Plus, "Burn in Hell" is one of the best hair metal songs ever so there's that. Voting Twisted.

Def Leppard - 1
Twisted Sister - 2

Blarobbarg 08-28-2012 08:05 PM

Well guys, once again, not a fan of either band, but at least this time I don't completely hate one. Both albums are okayish for what they are, but as far as mediocrity goes, Twisted Sister is slightly less mediocre than Leppard, even at Leppard's "prime" on their first album. Point to Crue.

Def Leppard - 1
Twisted Sister - 3

Terrible Lizard 08-28-2012 08:13 PM

Def everytime.
2 to 3

Engine 08-28-2012 09:33 PM

This is a coincidence. 'Stay Hungry' was another of the first LPs I got (in my elementary schol years) - and it was from the same kid who I got 'Pyromania' from. I remember coming home with the album and my mom saying, "I don't even want to look at that. What is wrong with you?" which, of course, made me love it all the more.

I'm pretty sure that my friend was stealing records from his older sister and trading/selling them to me. She was about 5 years older than us and, although I had been hanging around their house since I was about 7, she never acknowledged my existence. She was the coolest girl I'd ever seen and she used to let us hang out in her room when she was getting ready to go out. She did speak to me once to tell me that 'Shout At The Devil' is the best album that was ever made when she noticed me checking out one of her many Motley Crue posters. But I digress.

I remember liking 'Stay Hungry' so much that I almost automatically voted for it. But then I remembered how I used to think that I liked Ratt, so I gave the album a listen. I was right. To me, Stay Hungry kicks Pyromania's ass and takes its lunch money. Every day.

Twisted Sister: 4
Def Leppard: 2

Howard the Duck 08-28-2012 09:45 PM

lemme relisten to both and give an informed choice

edit:- ok

Def Leppard - this is the equivalent of some hot bimbo i managed to get - then i go back, whip it out and find myself flaccid, try to flog it but still no... i try a Swedish Penis Enhancer and still no.... the production is fluid, the tunes are there, it just doesn't rock out

Twisted Sister - this is more like it - basic rock n roll with stripped-down production - has elements of the Glitter Band, NY Dolls, Black Sabbath, KISS - it slows down when it hits final few songs, only coming back with "SMF" but that's ok

Stay Hungry - 5
Pyromania - 2

The Batlord 08-29-2012 08:23 AM

Gonna vote later, but I just need to mention that Trollheart forgot to update the vote when he voted. It should be:

Twisted Sister - 5
Def Leppard - 3


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