The DECLINE of the RECORD LABEL : who or what is to BLAME???

bluesfool · 09-14-2011, 10:35 PM

Very good point.

Very good point wisdom

djchameleon · 08-28-2011, 03:03 PM

Music hasn't lost popularity. Look at the sales figures for music festivals and concerts. Kids today just acquire their music in different ways than they used to in the past is all. Sure artists may not be making 10 million on album sales but there are artists today that are still breaking the million mark. Also digital sales are through the roof. No idea why but it is.

LOLPOCALYPSE · 08-28-2011, 04:45 PM

Even platinum-selling artists make very little from sales. Example: 30 Seconds To Mars didn't make a dime from their hit.

Necromancer · 08-28-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LOLPOCALYPSE

Even platinum-selling artists make very little from sales. Example: 30 Seconds To Mars didn't make a dime from their hit.

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Originally Posted by LOLPOCALYPSE

I just wrote a research paper on this...I don't have time right now but I will definitely be discussing this at some point.

I'm looking forward to your write up on the subject Lolpocalypse.

I don't think that music popularity alone, has much to do with the way music is distributed. Its mainly the impact the internet has made concerning promotion, for example.

Quality and variety is defiantly in the equation.

sopsych · 08-28-2011, 04:55 PM

You could be right on the whole, but "look at the sales figures for music festivals and concerts" probably isn't how you depict it. Many of the highest-grossing acts had their chart peaks a few decades ago. (Younger people often have trouble paying for high-priced tickets.) Also, I suspect that buying the physical product (e.g., CDs) is more linked to fan passion than downloading is, so the decline in record sales might indicate listeners don't care as much as they used to.

bluesfool · 09-14-2011, 10:32 PM

I think the record companies along with retailers need to drop the price of cds. I recently purchased a cd at Barnes and Noble for $18.00. I could have downloaded the same album on iTunes for $9.99 This is unacceptable! Cd sales would probably climb if the record companies and retailers charged about $10.00 for a cd. They have no one to blame but themselves for the decline in cd sales.

djchameleon · 09-15-2011, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bluesfool

I think the record companies along with retailers need to drop the price of cds. I recently purchased a cd at Barnes and Noble for $18.00. I could have downloaded the same album on iTunes for $9.99 This is unacceptable! Cd sales would probably climb if the record companies and retailers charged about $10.00 for a cd. They have no one to blame but themselves for the decline in cd sales.

Umm they do charge 9.99 for cds. You need to learn how to shop and not waste your money at places like Barnes and Nobles.

The Carter 4 was selling for 9.99 at Target.

Batty · 09-14-2011, 10:49 PM

Check out what Marillion have done since they left the mainstream.
They do it all themselves.
Writing their 17th album atm

ThePhanastasio · 09-18-2011, 01:06 AM

In the past, there was a need for record labels, because there was no feasible way in which acts could communicate directly with their fans which was cost effective.

Now, audio-editing software is readily available to be illegally downloaded, it's completely likely that DAW can be purchased, and fans can be directly involved with the artists for no cost at all.

I feel like the use for record labels has been all but used up; anyone with the desire to play music can now do so on the internet.

It's not necessarily a bad thing either; there's such an abundance of new music readily available that music aficionados are now able to take advantage of it and find new acts they're interested in.

If anything, I feel as though it's more of a renaissance than anything.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 09-18-2011, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePhanastasio

In the past, there was a need for record labels, because there was no feasible way in which acts could communicate directly with their fans which was cost effective.

Now, audio-editing software is readily available to be illegally downloaded, it's completely likely that DAW can be purchased, and fans can be directly involved with the artists for no cost at all.

I feel like the use for record labels has been all but used up; anyone with the desire to play music can now do so on the internet.

It's not necessarily a bad thing either; there's such an abundance of new music readily available that music aficionados are now able to take advantage of it and find new acts they're interested in.

If anything, I feel as though it's more of a renaissance than anything.

I think that it allows for more artistic freedom not being with a record label. If you are really devoted to your music and treat it like art you won't let others manipulate it so they can make money of you.

But the key thing is how well known do you want to be, that can require a lot of work if you want a larger audience of listeners.

Do people still visit radio stations these days and pop in their music?

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09-14-2011, 10:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
bluesfool Groupie Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 43	Very good point. Very good point wisdom

08-28-2011, 04:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
LOLPOCALYPSE Aryan Wonder Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 445	Even platinum-selling artists make very little from sales. Example: 30 Seconds To Mars didn't make a dime from their hit.

08-28-2011, 04:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
sopsych Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: indoors Posts: 722	You could be right on the whole, but "look at the sales figures for music festivals and concerts" probably isn't how you depict it. Many of the highest-grossing acts had their chart peaks a few decades ago. (Younger people often have trouble paying for high-priced tickets.) Also, I suspect that buying the physical product (e.g., CDs) is more linked to fan passion than downloading is, so the decline in record sales might indicate listeners don't care as much as they used to.

09-14-2011, 10:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
bluesfool Groupie Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 43	I think the record companies along with retailers need to drop the price of cds. I recently purchased a cd at Barnes and Noble for $18.00. I could have downloaded the same album on iTunes for $9.99 This is unacceptable! Cd sales would probably climb if the record companies and retailers charged about $10.00 for a cd. They have no one to blame but themselves for the decline in cd sales.