Why I hate Metallica (punk, debut album, albums, Nickelback, covers)

jackhammer · 01-14-2009, 06:59 AM

This is the tracklisting for Garage, Inc:
Disc one

These tracks were recorded in September-October 1998 for the Garage Inc. album.# Title Writer(s) Original artist Length
1. "Free Speech for the Dumb" Garry Maloney, Kevin "Cal" Morris, Tony "Bones" Roberts, Roy "Rainy" Wainwright Discharge (1982) 2:36
2. "It's Electric" Sean Harris, Brian Tatler Diamond Head (1980) 3:34
3. "Sabbra Cadabra" (actually a medley of Black Sabbath's "Sabbra Cadabra" and "A National Acrobat") Ozzy Osbourne, Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler, Bill Ward Black Sabbath (1973) 6:20
4. "Turn the Page" Bob Seger Bob Seger (1973) 6:06
5. "Die, Die My Darling" Glenn Danzig Misfits (1984) 2:29
6. "Loverman" Nick Cave Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds (1994) 7:53
7. "Mercyful Fate" (comprises the songs "Evil", "Curse of the Pharaohs", "Satan's Fall", "A Corpse Without a Soul", and "Into the Coven") King Diamond, Hank Shermann Mercyful Fate (1982) 11:12
8. "Astronomy" Joe Bouchard, Albert Bouchard, Sandy Pearlman Blue Öyster Cult (1974) 6:38
9. "Whiskey in the Jar" (traditional) Cover of Thin Lizzy (version, 1972)[1] 5:05
10. "Tuesday's Gone" (recorded in 1997 as Metallica hosted a radio program out of San Jose, CA (KSJO)) Ronnie Van Zant, Gary Rossington, Allen Collins Lynyrd Skynyrd (1973) 9:06
11. "The More I See" (contains a short segment of the Robin Trower song "Bridge of Sighs", from the album of the same name) Maloney, Morris, Roberts, Wainwright Discharge (1984) 4:49

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Disc two

These tracks are a collection of B-sides from artists Metallica were inspired by throughout the early years of the band.The $5.98 E.P.: Garage Days Re-Revisited (1987)
# Title Writer(s) Original artist Length
1. "Helpless" Harris, Tatler Diamond Head (1980) 6:38
2. "The Small Hours" John Mortimer, John McCullim, Bryan Bartley, Ron Levine Holocaust (1983) 6:43
3. "The Wait" Jaz Coleman, Kevin "Geordie" Walker, Martin "Youth" Glover, Paul Ferguson Killing Joke (1980) 4:55
4. "Crash Course in Brain Surgery" Burke Shelley, Tony Bourge, Ray Phillips Budgie (1971) 3:10
5. "Last Caress"/"Green Hell" (contains a mock parody of Iron Maiden's song "Run to the Hills" at the end. Iron Maiden responded to this on a B-side cover of the Montrose song entitled "Space Station No. 5") Danzig Misfits (1980/1983) 3:30
Garage Days Revisited (1984)
# Title Writer(s) Original artist Length
6. "Am I Evil?" Harris, Tatler Diamond Head (1980) 7:50
7. "Blitzkrieg" Ian Jones, Jim Sirotto, Brian Ross Blitzkrieg (1981) 3:37
B-Sides & One-Offs (1988–1991)
# Title Writer(s) Original artist Length
8. "Breadfan" Bourge, Phillips, Shelley Budgie (1973) 5:41
9. "The Prince" Harris, Tatler Diamond Head (1980) 4:26
10. "Stone Cold Crazy" Mercury, May, Taylor, Deacon Queen (1974) 2:19
11. "So What?" Nick "Animal" Kulmer, Chris "Magoo" Exall, Clive "Winston" Blake Anti-Nowhere League (1981) 3:09
12. "Killing Time" Vivian Campbell, Trevor Fleming, Raymond Haller, David Bates Sweet Savage (1981) 3:04
Motörheadache (1995)
# Title Writer(s) Original artist Length
13. "Overkill" Eddie Clarke, Ian Kilmister, Phil Taylor Motörhead (1979) 4:05
14. "Damage Case" Clarke, Kilmister, Taylor, Mick Farren Motörhead (1979) 3:40
15. "Stone Dead Forever" Clarke, Kilmister, Taylor Motörhead (1979) 4:52
16. "Too Late Too Late" Clarke, Kilmister, Taylor Motörhead (1979) 3:12

Maybe Mr. Janzoon fancies a listen

Just PM.

Mojo · 01-14-2009, 07:03 AM

Most of the second disc is good. I especially like Breadfan, So What, Am I Evil, Damage Case and Helpless.

Theres a few erm...."interesting" covers on the first disc but Turn The Page is beautiful.

NSW · 01-14-2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

Most of the second disc is good. I especially like Breadfan, So What, Am I Evil, Damage Case and Helpless.

Theres a few erm...."interesting" covers on the first disc but Turn The Page is beautiful.

Breadfan FTW

punkrawker07 · 01-14-2009, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

Hmm, but Metallica had the film crew follow them around for quite a long period of time so everything that happened in that time (hiring the therapist, meeting with Mustaine) was captured on film. Its still a documentary.

Their music has certainly suffered over the years. Load was average at best, Reload was disappointing, Garage Inc was un-neccessary and St. Anger was ****. Personally I thought S&M was absolutely beautiful.

Their newer stuff may have won them a few younger fans but if Metallica are still "held on such a high pededstal" I would say its because of their older stuff really.

How would you define the term 'sell out'?

i guess i would say a 'sell out' is any band that their sound is driven by what the mainstream is asking for. i see too many bands that will come out with a great debut album or at least an album with potential and then turn around and their second album sounds like every other nickelback wannabe band. also any band driven by money and profit is a sell out. yes it is a job but that doesn't mean you have to play lame music just so you can be a millionaire. i also think that you can't really be a famous band signed to a big label without technically be a sellout to some degree. it's almost impossible.

metallica will continue to sell anything they put out but they have run their course. to be honest i'd rather listen to the new trivium album, a band definitely influenced by metallica.

Mojo · 01-14-2009, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkrawker07

i guess i would say a 'sell out' is any band that their sound is driven by what the mainstream is asking for. i see too many bands that will come out with a great debut album or at least an album with potential and then turn around and their second album sounds like every other nickelback wannabe band.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojopinuk

Some bands find themselves in sudden positions of popularity that in turn brings in a lot of money. Some bands enjoy making money. To sell out though you have to sell your principles down the river in favour of making money which is why I have never and will never agree with those who claim the whole Napster dispute makes Metallica sell outs. If you want to claim something else they have done makes them sell outs then go for it, you may have a point.

So, we agree then?

jackhammer · 01-14-2009, 08:04 AM

The second half of Garage, Inc especially the Garage Days tracks had a massive impact on me as a kid and they still get a blast out once in a while. Helpless and The Small Hours especially. I have the classic Diamond Head album 'Lightning To The Nations' which had a massive influence on Metallica.

zegna · 01-15-2009, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

Most of the second disc is good. I especially like Breadfan, So What, Am I Evil, Damage Case and Helpless.

Theres a few erm...."interesting" covers on the first disc but Turn The Page is beautiful.

I thought the Sabbath and Thin Lizzy covers on the 1st disc were pretty good too.

~~The Unfan~~ · 01-15-2009, 10:21 AM

All of these covers are less than a third as good as the originals. What an awful 2 discs to have to sit through.

Mojo · 01-15-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

All of these covers are less than a third as good as the originals. What an awful 2 discs to have to sit through.

Who's forcing you like?

jenkyfats · 01-15-2009, 03:48 PM

i got into metal because of the tallica boys. but you can't deny that some of their music sucks weenie. as far as the napster crap, who gives.

01-14-2009, 06:59 AM	#241 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	This is the tracklisting for Garage, Inc: Disc one These tracks were recorded in September-October 1998 for the Garage Inc. album.# Title Writer(s) Original artist Length 1. "Free Speech for the Dumb" Garry Maloney, Kevin "Cal" Morris, Tony "Bones" Roberts, Roy "Rainy" Wainwright Discharge (1982) 2:36 2. "It's Electric" Sean Harris, Brian Tatler Diamond Head (1980) 3:34 3. "Sabbra Cadabra" (actually a medley of Black Sabbath's "Sabbra Cadabra" and "A National Acrobat") Ozzy Osbourne, Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler, Bill Ward Black Sabbath (1973) 6:20 4. "Turn the Page" Bob Seger Bob Seger (1973) 6:06 5. "Die, Die My Darling" Glenn Danzig Misfits (1984) 2:29 6. "Loverman" Nick Cave Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds (1994) 7:53 7. "Mercyful Fate" (comprises the songs "Evil", "Curse of the Pharaohs", "Satan's Fall", "A Corpse Without a Soul", and "Into the Coven") King Diamond, Hank Shermann Mercyful Fate (1982) 11:12 8. "Astronomy" Joe Bouchard, Albert Bouchard, Sandy Pearlman Blue Öyster Cult (1974) 6:38 9. "Whiskey in the Jar" (traditional) Cover of Thin Lizzy (version, 1972)[1] 5:05 10. "Tuesday's Gone" (recorded in 1997 as Metallica hosted a radio program out of San Jose, CA (KSJO)) Ronnie Van Zant, Gary Rossington, Allen Collins Lynyrd Skynyrd (1973) 9:06 11. "The More I See" (contains a short segment of the Robin Trower song "Bridge of Sighs", from the album of the same name) Maloney, Morris, Roberts, Wainwright Discharge (1984) 4:49 [edit] Disc two These tracks are a collection of B-sides from artists Metallica were inspired by throughout the early years of the band.The $5.98 E.P.: Garage Days Re-Revisited (1987) # Title Writer(s) Original artist Length 1. "Helpless" Harris, Tatler Diamond Head (1980) 6:38 2. "The Small Hours" John Mortimer, John McCullim, Bryan Bartley, Ron Levine Holocaust (1983) 6:43 3. "The Wait" Jaz Coleman, Kevin "Geordie" Walker, Martin "Youth" Glover, Paul Ferguson Killing Joke (1980) 4:55 4. "Crash Course in Brain Surgery" Burke Shelley, Tony Bourge, Ray Phillips Budgie (1971) 3:10 5. "Last Caress"/"Green Hell" (contains a mock parody of Iron Maiden's song "Run to the Hills" at the end. Iron Maiden responded to this on a B-side cover of the Montrose song entitled "Space Station No. 5") Danzig Misfits (1980/1983) 3:30 Garage Days Revisited (1984) # Title Writer(s) Original artist Length 6. "Am I Evil?" Harris, Tatler Diamond Head (1980) 7:50 7. "Blitzkrieg" Ian Jones, Jim Sirotto, Brian Ross Blitzkrieg (1981) 3:37 B-Sides & One-Offs (1988–1991) # Title Writer(s) Original artist Length 8. "Breadfan" Bourge, Phillips, Shelley Budgie (1973) 5:41 9. "The Prince" Harris, Tatler Diamond Head (1980) 4:26 10. "Stone Cold Crazy" Mercury, May, Taylor, Deacon Queen (1974) 2:19 11. "So What?" Nick "Animal" Kulmer, Chris "Magoo" Exall, Clive "Winston" Blake Anti-Nowhere League (1981) 3:09 12. "Killing Time" Vivian Campbell, Trevor Fleming, Raymond Haller, David Bates Sweet Savage (1981) 3:04 Motörheadache (1995) # Title Writer(s) Original artist Length 13. "Overkill" Eddie Clarke, Ian Kilmister, Phil Taylor Motörhead (1979) 4:05 14. "Damage Case" Clarke, Kilmister, Taylor, Mick Farren Motörhead (1979) 3:40 15. "Stone Dead Forever" Clarke, Kilmister, Taylor Motörhead (1979) 4:52 16. "Too Late Too Late" Clarke, Kilmister, Taylor Motörhead (1979) 3:12 Maybe Mr. Janzoon fancies a listen Just PM. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-14-2009, 08:04 AM	#246 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	The second half of Garage, Inc especially the Garage Days tracks had a massive impact on me as a kid and they still get a blast out once in a while. Helpless and The Small Hours especially. I have the classic Diamond Head album 'Lightning To The Nations' which had a massive influence on Metallica. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-14-2009, 07:03 AM	#242 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	Most of the second disc is good. I especially like Breadfan, So What, Am I Evil, Damage Case and Helpless. Theres a few erm...."interesting" covers on the first disc but Turn The Page is beautiful.

01-15-2009, 10:21 AM	#248 (permalink)
~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	All of these covers are less than a third as good as the originals. What an awful 2 discs to have to sit through.

01-15-2009, 03:48 PM	#250 (permalink)
jenkyfats Groupie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Goshen, IN Posts: 30	i got into metal because of the tallica boys. but you can't deny that some of their music sucks weenie. as far as the napster crap, who gives.