musicismydrug

Thanks guys for the input. The above makes a lot of sense, as well as the rest.
Personally i think they're ok. They're not my favorite, but they have a time and a place. appreciate the input one again. I think that answered it.

About 30 percent of you have a reason, and the other 60 either don't know/don't care, or just blatantly hate for no reason.

Thanks Exoskeletal, that does make sense; he's an a-hole.

Howard the Duck

"Higher" came on the radio the other day and i have to admit i enjoyed it

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I think the hate for bands like Creed and Nickelback actually touches onto some of the same ideas that came up in the 'bad taste' thread.

Essentially the groups are insincere and it comes across rather clearly to most listeners.

Creed was preachy to a fault, that's why the majority of people disliked them. Couple that with Scott Stapp's hypocritical behaviour and outlandish claims about the band (I believe the line was similar to - We made people forget about Led Zeppelin with our 1st album, now we're going to make them forget about The Doors with our 2nd).

Nickelback is even worse. Chad Kroger has flat out acknowledged that the band exists to churn out hits and to make a profit. There's nothing inherently wrong with wanting commercial success but to put it first and foremost, it completely decays any sort of creative integrity within their art.

It's one of those situations where the listener needs to be able to recognize unspoken communication, like reading body language. It's clear to passionate listeners that the musicians in these groups are simply working a job and collecting a paycheck while trying to convince listeners that they honestly care. They're the musical equivalent to an emotionally abusive Ex- who'll make you feel guilty for doing what they asked.

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my main problem with Creed is that they were trying to appeal to too huge a cross-section, to the extent of putting pseudo-Christianity in their lyrics

my main problem with Nickelback is that after their initial few singles, all their songs sound the same

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Actually, while it's no surprise, there was another band called Creed that was from the South in the 70's. They had an album on Asylum back in 1978 which was not bad (The singer was into playing the Arp Synth just to give you a hint of what the other band sounded like), but now all of their reunions are under the name Southern Creed as to not to be confused with the better-known band in discussion here.

rushingavengedtheaters

I personally enjoy creed a little bit.

ccgirl

I like Creed, it's just while they were big, they were over played on the radio which killed them. It seemed every other song on the radio then was a Creed song, so my assumption is that people just got sick of hearing them.

Norg

yeah like yall said already there songs are just bland not innovative and not catchy at all radio rock has i call it and that sort of music cant keep my attention

Janszoon

That's kind of a funny way to differentiate themselves since the other Creed is also from the south.

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OK, confession time. I used to like Creed. It was the end of the 90's, and for most of the 90's radio was dead to me after Kurt Cobain took a shotgun to himself. I got big time in to rock with the metal boom in the late 80s and again with Grunge, and then Cobain died... Soundgarden split up, Layne Stayley went AWOL, Pearl Jam were basically in exile because they were fighting Ticketmaster... even other rock was suffering. Faith No More kicked out their metal dude (Jim Martin), Living Colour split up. Jane's Addiction split up. All you had were Rage against the Machine, Stone Temple Pilots, Tool and Live to survive the entire 90's. It was a tough time.

So I had been missing rock, and in the same way sailors mistake manatees for mermaids, you hear this band with something that sounds like a rock guitar and a guy whose trying to sound like a either Eddie Vedder or Jim Morrison, you go... OK, maybe rock is back.

And in their defense, Tremoti is a kick-ass guitarist - witness Alter Bridge, and occasionally, in, say, a song like Higher, they let his create a rift that could have been a great rock rift.

But again, it's Scott Stapp, and I'm not someone turned off by religion (I have POD and Evanescence in my CD collection), but at the time I didn't have a TV and a friend of mine nudged me about the band when he found out I listened to them.

"Watch them on TV, you'll see what I mean".

And he was right. The moment Scott Stapp did a "Jesus Christ" pose you get the whole thing right there. Over the top posing... self-important looks... videos that make him look like a saint for turning down groupies... yeah, what a bag.