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Old 01-16-2015, 10:53 AM   #211 (permalink)
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It takes at least 10 years from sentencing until the death sentence is usually carried out because of the lengthy appeals process. That's plenty of time for study.
Certainly not. Psychopaths are notoriously difficult to psychologically analyze due to their propensity to lie. Any program of long-term study probably wouldn't produce and real, helpful results for decades, so as much time with a subject as possible would be desirable, or else the whole enterprise might be useless.

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Certain crimes are so heinous that you deserve to die for them. Plain and simple in my mind.
If you want to live in an eye-for-an-eye society where we only want to punish criminals, then why not just bring back drawing and quartering? If such a person deserves death, then why not try to make their punishment as horrible as the crime? I think Ted Bundy could certainly be said to have deserved being violated with a blunt instrument just like he did to his victims. We don't do that because society is moving towards treating criminals as people, and using the justice system to rehabilitate rather than punish, and executing people simply because of some nebulous concept of them "deserving" it is counter to that emerging philosophy, which I'm hoping you generally support. Rather than thinking about revenge, why shouldn't you be more concerned with long-term benefit to society's moral evolution?
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:58 AM   #212 (permalink)
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I disagree with you.
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the death penalty should only be used for people that chula thinks is deserving of it imo
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:03 PM   #214 (permalink)
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I have an uncle currently incarcerated for diddling a little girl at a child care him and his bitch of a wife ran. Pretty much the whole family thinks he deserves the death penalty, we hate him despite the fact he cried and stuff and claimed he couldn't control it. Where do y'all stand on that?
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Old 01-16-2015, 02:13 PM   #215 (permalink)
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the death penalty should only be used for people that chula thinks is deserving of it imo
No. The death penalty should only be used for people who are convicted by a court of law and a jury of their peers, and then given it as their sentence.

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Seriously don't think we as a society should be able to decide who gets to live or die. I'm not religious, but I just think there's so much moral superiority and ignorance in that. These murders, no matter how horrible they are, are people. The same as all of us. It's easier and more beneficial to us to look at how they came to be the way they are, and try to solve the problems that led them down that path.
That's avoiding the obvious, that so many innocents are dead thanks to the death penalty.
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I see nobody wants to touch that one. People will talk all day about whether a murderer should be executed or not, but throw a variable that fvcks our most innocent offspring at them and everyone freezes.

That being said, I think people who murder for the mafia etc. Should be given leniency. Nine times out of ten they just trying to make a buck.
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I see nobody wants to touch that one. People will talk all day about whether a murderer should be executed or not, but throw a variable that fvcks our most innocent offspring at them and everyone freezes.

That being said, I think people who murder for the mafia etc. Should be given leniency. Nine times out of ten they just trying to make a buck.
Nobody reacted to what you wrote, because it in no way affects the various positions and arguments people have displayed here.
Everybody is aware that child molestation sadly exists and it's already considered when forming opinions on death penalty.
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