The Batlord

I meant that you were describing individual parts in much the same way that prog fans go on about "crazy time signature changes that nobody ever played before OMG!" and whatnot. I don't have the ear to pick up on little specifics like that TBH, so if the music doesn't make sense to me as a whole, then pointing out the "minutiae" isn't going to sway me.

I listen to plenty(ish) out there music, but not because of the little experimental things that I just am not equipped to notice. For example, I love (some) no wave, because of how it perverts rock music (like the Contortions or Teenage Jesus and the Jerks) or how it uses rock elements for its own nefarious purposes (Glenn Branca and early Sonic Youth) but while still having something to latch onto. I'm not necessarily concerned with the fine details, just the finished product.



See, this is where we are at an impasse. This might seem out there to you because you're versed in the avant garde, but to me whatever details are revolutionary just kind of pass me by, and it only sounds unimpressively random.

Also, not being a poetry/lyrics guy, spoken word doesn't really resonate with me in any way unless there's some element to catch my ear (such as the menacing voice of Attila in "Agartha" on Sunn O)))'s Monoliths and Dimensions.

I can get down with this. Obviously it's a much more traditional song, so even if I am missing some weirdness under the surface, I don't need to appreciate it to get into the simple rhythm, just like how I can dig the Talking Heads accessible-but-still-unique sound without having to be amazed at Brian Eno's tape loops.

As obtuse as some elements of this are, they are much more alien than anything I've heard from Primus, so I find it more fun to listen to than something more orthodox, like the former. Hence, why I find Primus to be boring: they're kind of weird, but not weird enough to make me feel like I'm listening to the results of a collection of personality disorders.

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Mondo Bungle

primus sucks

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Frownland

x2

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Chula Vista

SOAD
White Zombie
Tool

Hey Frown, didn't realize how much Primus was influenced by Beefheart.

Primus is great BTW.

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Frownland

Pretty massive Beefheart influence, but I think that Primus wears it's Beefheart influence on its undershirt while sporting a Residents influence on their sleeve. It's mostly in the vocals, but after digging through all of the rezzy's discography, listening to Primus is like The Residents-lite. Residents have a massive Beefheart influence too (some theorize that Beefheart may briefly have been in the group as well), so I guess it comes full circle.



Around three minutes in you can really hear it.

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Chula Vista

Does Claypool acknowledge it at all?

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Frownland

I've heard about Claypool talking about the residents from other residents fans but I haven't heard those interviews directly (laziness, etc.). However, Primus did cover Hello Skinny and Constantinople on Frizzle Fry so I don't think the influence can be any clearer than that.

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Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

William_the_Bloody

White Zombie
Tool
SOAD

The Batlord

Today is a good day, for Tool has finally been voted off. I want everybody to give themselves a big round of applause for finally doing the right thing. Next round...


6. White Zombie - Astrocreep: 2000
5. Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger
4. System Of a Down - Toxicity
3. Faith No More - Angel Dust
2. Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine
1. Alice in Chains - Dirt


Vote 3 off. Polls end on June 16.

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Frownland

Well Tool was my favourite off of the surviving list so **** yall for executing both them and Primus.

Soundgarden
White Zombie
SOAD

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