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Old 01-28-2016, 09:44 PM   #501 (permalink)
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You're right about the sound, and I couldn't agree more. However, I believe the punk scene was really getting started in 77, and that was the year Television, Clash, Sex Pistols, Wire, Talking Heads and many other punk bands came out. Ramones was just starting it in 76, taking the influence and pretty much setting the standards. I suppose punk as a genre was legit in 77 or 76.
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You're right about the sound, and I couldn't agree more. However, I believe the punk scene was really getting started in 77, and that was the year Television, Clash, Sex Pistols, Wire, Talking Heads and many other punk bands came out. Ramones was just starting it in 76, taking the influence and pretty much setting the standards. I suppose punk as a genre was legit in 77 or 76.
I believe Television predated the Ramones. If memory serves, they were actually the first CBGB's punk band. The only like-minded group before them in New York was Suicide.
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Punk is creepy. It gives me the seebie-jeebies.
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:44 AM   #504 (permalink)
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Hey, I can make labels for each round. I used to do something similar for another thread series on another site.

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But, I still need to know how to make them full size.
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Old 01-29-2016, 01:04 PM   #505 (permalink)
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I would consider Pere Ubu's The Modern Dance and Mission of Burma's Vs. to be pretty essential Art Punk albums that could be contenders for that list. Not sure which of those albums they should (potentially) replace, but for instance, I would say the Talking Heads album is really more of a New Wave album than Art Punk (ftr, I do know wiki has it listed primarily as art punk and new wave secondary, RYM has it the other way around though. Also, I know there is already a Heads album in the New Wave list, so I'm not saying that ':77' should replace it) and you didn't put which Fall album you wanted, though I'm assuming Live at the Witch Trials(?), which is arguably more just post-punk. I realise though, that the lines between these sub-genres are really blurred, that goes for the albums I suggested too. I'll leave it to you guys' best judgement, I guess.
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Well, I avoided albums that were both post-punk and art pnuk and I avoided using most of the same bands. The two would be too similar.
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The hell is the difference between art punk and post-punk? The number of pointless lists is getting downright retarded.
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The hell is the difference between art punk and post-punk? The number of pointless lists is getting downright retarded.
It's just a way for punk posers to fit in more categories that's all.
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I've noticed that Survivor Vital Signs is still in the 70s Arena section. For one it's an 80s album and already in the AOR section.
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Post-punk is a slower and more atmospheric form of rock music that borrows elements from punk rock, while art punk is literally an artsy form of punk. I can always tell the difference between the two, but art punk is less restricted than post-punk.
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