Metal Battle

kibbeh · 08-31-2016, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

I know, but there is the media driven perception (Fair or not) that nations in the Middle East are more fundamentalist in their faith.

So it had me thinking if couple of misfits in Kuwait decided they were atheists and Islam was BS, and created the Muslim satanic equivalent of Slayer, could they get away with it? or would the government come down on them, or would they be targets for radical fundamentalists (ISIS types)?

I recognize there is still a religious right in the United States, but the most they do is show up to protest outside of concerts, or try to get censorship labels put on records. There not the force they once were when I was little.

as i said, there are bands like that in bahrain and the KSA as far as i know. also, as far as i know, they haven't been targeted by the authorities. maybe they will be eventually. i don't know. makes sense that they would be.

i know about lebanon though, one of the most popular and most loved lebanese musicians of the 20th century was ziad rahbani and hes still very popular today. he's an athiest and hes very open about it and talks about how **** religion is in his music, and yeah people still really love him.

The Batlord · 08-31-2016, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69

as i said, there are bands like that in bahrain and the KSA as far as i know. also, as far as i know, they haven't been targeted by the authorities. maybe they will be eventually. i don't know. makes sense that they would be.

i know about lebanon though, one of the most popular and most loved lebanese musicians of the 20th century was ziad rahbani and hes still very popular today. he's an athiest and hes very open about it and talks about how **** religion is in his music, and yeah people still really love him.

I remember hearing about the first metal band in Iraq after we "liberated" it. Apparently sectarian groups were threatening their lives and they fled to Syria (I believe). So clearly these guys have all the luck.

Don't know if that is in any way representative of anything though.

kibbeh · 08-31-2016, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I remember hearing about the first metal band in Iraq after we "liberated" it. Apparently sectarian groups were threatening their lives and they fled to Syria (I believe). So clearly these guys have all the luck.

Don't know if that is in any way representative of anything though.

i mean i guess it depends. the middle east isn't all one big thing thats exactly the same everywhere. in saudi arabia for example, i imagine metal bands would be okay in somewhere like jeddah since its more liberal but not so much in the capital city, which is more conservative. there are bands of course who have had to run away because of threats. but often they run away to other arab countries. so i dunno. its complicated i guess.

The Batlord · 08-31-2016, 12:38 PM

Update: had never listened to ^band before, but they've actually released music. I guess you could call them Lamb of God-ish post-thrash with bits of power or maybe prog metal I guess? Nothing special so far but they're not an abomination. And no, even though they sing in English I have no idea what they're singing about (a singer who actually sings clean is a nice touch though). But way too much chugging to be memorable.

The Batlord · 08-31-2016, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69

i mean i guess it depends. the middle east isn't all one big thing thats exactly the same everywhere. in saudi arabia for example, i imagine metal bands would be okay in somewhere like jeddah since its more liberal but not so much in the capital city, which is more conservative. there are bands of course who have had to run away because of threats. but often they run away to other arab countries. so i dunno. its complicated i guess.

No yeah I know. Like I said, I don't know how representative that band is, but I was just putting it out their for the curious. I'm surprised that anywhere in Saudi Arabia would be accepting of metal, which is cool, but in general I know that it's not all fullbody burkas and AK-47s (just the cool parts), and post-invasion Iraq is/was kind of the wild west with religious hatemongering, so YMMV I guess.

kibbeh · 08-31-2016, 12:48 PM

i'm not familiar with that iraqi band, and to be honest, i don't listen much to middle eastern metal because i feel like they're just not the best metal bands out there? you know? i personally just prefer arabic folk music but hey thats just me. also i guess its cause most, if not all, of arab metal bands are very amatuer-ish i guess for the reason that they won't really find any mainstream support in the middle east.

the only band whos work i'm familiar with is a black metal band from lebanon called Damaar which means 'destruction'. again, they're not awful but nothing special imo

kibbeh · 08-31-2016, 01:07 PM

these guys are from saudi arabia. very anti-islam. and they sing in arabic, which i really like.

Blank. · 08-31-2016, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Spoiler for list of albums:

Spoiler for Albums that have been voted off:

Alice In Chains - Dirt - 3
Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who' s Buying?
Gaza - No Absolutes In Human Suffering - 4
Burzum - Filosofem

Vote off your least favorite or album you hate the most. Voting ends next Tuesday.

Ok. So I was thinking of doing for the next battle the big 4 of thrash. Except I don't see on the list an Anthrax album. So, which one should we add so we can do big 4 next.

Just in case there is confusion, battle is still going on.

The Batlord · 08-31-2016, 04:34 PM

Spreading the Disease

**Frownland** · 08-31-2016, 05:50 PM

Among the Living

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kibbeh kibbeh Join Date: May 2016 Location: nowhere Posts: 648	i'm not familiar with that iraqi band, and to be honest, i don't listen much to middle eastern metal because i feel like they're just not the best metal bands out there? you know? i personally just prefer arabic folk music but hey thats just me. also i guess its cause most, if not all, of arab metal bands are very amatuer-ish i guess for the reason that they won't really find any mainstream support in the middle east. the only band whos work i'm familiar with is a black metal band from lebanon called Damaar which means 'destruction'. again, they're not awful but nothing special imo

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kibbeh kibbeh Join Date: May 2016 Location: nowhere Posts: 648	these guys are from saudi arabia. very anti-islam. and they sing in arabic, which i really like.