The Official Smashing Pumpkins/Billy Corgan Thread

[Zer0]

Yeah it was released a couple of days ago. I didn't know the song was going to be released until i saw a post about the song on facebook, i don't really look at the website too often. The song's not too bad, it certainly grows on you after a few listens.

[duga]

Originally Posted by Zero1986

Their new song 'Widow Make My Mind' seems ok. Those 'oh oh oh's from Billy seem kinda irritating but other that that it's not too bad i guess, it's kinda poppy as well.

I've been listening to their early demo tapes recently and i must say that the Moon demo is pretty damn good. I've really fallen in love with 'Egg', 'Bye June', 'Stars Fall In' and 'Psychodelic', Jimmy's drumming on the last 3 minutes of the latter is mind-blowing. Their self-titled demo is rubbish though apart from the first 2 songs, and there's also a couple of songs which sound like Billy fronting early Iron Maiden ('Nothing and Everything' and 'Spitface')

did you listen to their first ever show at the metro? it sounds like some weird iron maiden/cure hybrid that just doesn't work at all. the reason is because they wrote those songs without jimmy and he added such a powerful element that when they wrote later songs it added so much power they had to be more of a "rock" band.

mashed potatoes is awesome...you should check that out as well

[Zer0]

Originally Posted by duga

did you listen to their first ever show at the metro? it sounds like some weird iron maiden/cure hybrid that just doesn't work at all. the reason is because they wrote those songs without jimmy and he added such a powerful element that when they wrote later songs it added so much power they had to be more of a "rock" band.

mashed potatoes is awesome...you should check that out as well

I haven't listened to the entire show yet but there's a track on their self-titled demo taken from that show, 'Sun'. It sounds like Billy fronting The Cure but in a really wierd way. Yeah i have Mashed Potatoes it's so cool, one of the really great things about the Pumpkins is the amount of cool b-sides and rare tracks.

[duga]

i am always amazed at the quality of their bsides...i am a proud owner of the aeroplane flies high box set in great condition.

the fact that machina 2 was free and had so much stellar material makes me love them so much more. speed kills...amazing song.

[scottsy]

I'll have to download me that new song.... I completely forgot they were coming out with new material this year....

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by sidewinder

Totally agree. And sadly, that goes for almost every double-CD in existence, no matter how much I may like a band.

Eh, I don't agree with that, some bands really do just have so much material to choose from that it's better to just let loose with a double album, I don't think that's a sign of arrogance or anything. With concept albums (like Tommy and The Wall) every song moves the story and pace along, take out even some of the lesser tracks and it might feel like something is missing, like editing out a scene of a movie that explains an important plot point.

If I had to pick a favorite double album it would probably be Melon Collie.

Other great double albums: Physical Grafitti, London Calling, White Album, Double Nickels on the Dime, Songs in the Key of Life, Tales From Topographic Oceans, Thick as a Brick, Wheels of Fire, Bitches Brew, Space Ritual, Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Electric Ladyland, Something/Anything?, Life After Death, Tago Mago, Kobaia, Focus III. I love Tommy and The Wall too, I know everyone hates those but whatever.

IMO the most overrated double album ever is Blonde on Blonde, it's just insufferably boring, Zen Arcade isn't my thing either.

I still need to listen to Embryonic by Flaming Lips.

[duga]

Originally Posted by boo boo

Tales From Topographic Oceans

Wow, you like this album? You are probably the only other person on Earth I know that listens to this album, then. I couldn't get into it until I was a hardcore Yes fan. Though, I'm not sure of its general opinion on this forum.

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by duga

Wow, you like this album? You are probably the only other person on Earth I know that listens to this album, then. I couldn't get into it until I was a hardcore Yes fan. Though, I'm not sure of its general opinion on this forum.

Not only do I love this album, after Melon Collie, it would be my next choice for best double album ever made.

General opinion can go f*ck itself.

[Necromancer]

I love the simplisity, and the mood of this song, one of my favorites by the Pumpkins.

YouTube - Smashing Pumpkins 1979 video

[Zer0]

Yes, 1979 is definitely one of my favourites what makes it even more special is that it holds up to repeated listening so well, after hearing it so many times it still sounds great compared to other well known Pumpkins songs like Today and Bullet With Butterfly Wings.

Regarding Teargarden By Kaleidyscope what are peoples' impressions on the first 4 songs? After listening to each of them individually as they were released i listened to all four of them together recently and i think the first 3 songs 'A Song For A Son', 'Widow Wake My Mind' and 'A Stitch In Time' work pretty well together. 'Astral Planes' on the other hand is really bad. It starts off really promising though, as soon as i heard the heavy distorted guitars i thought "Yes! Classic Pumpkins", but when it came to the first verse i thought "WTF???". It just sounds all over the place and completely misjudged, probably one of the worst things Billy has ever done. But still i'm looking forward to more songs from Billy, there'll probably be a few more turds but if he can produce plenty more good songs i'll still be happy.