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Old 06-07-2019, 08:05 AM   #11 (permalink)
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^ This is turning into a steep learning curve for me - all new material despite how highly OH is placing this album. I like the cover, album title and the Poledo song. It's usually a good sign imo when an artist discards conventional sound engineering wisdom and goes for some rough edges to the music. Nice.
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Song #2: Fugazi - Waiting Room (1988)

I love the bass guitar lead in and how you can hear that same riff throughout. The anguish/anger from the vocalist caught my attention immediately, as did the opening lines:-


"My time is like water down a drain" Brilliant! What a pity though, that the song comes to such an early and abrupt end.
Fugazi and Minor Threat founding member Ian McKaye also has a band with his wife Amy named The Evens, it's a duo guitar (him) and drums (her).

One thing cool, Fugazi used to swap vocalists.

Here's the one who took the more "emotive" songs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=looSwGHulFI


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Old 06-07-2019, 04:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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^ Thanks for fleshing out the Fugazi rec with a couple more songs, Mo.

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You gotta respect Ian MacKaye and his stick to your guns DIY $5 tickets no giving in to ticket master punk ethics. I totally respect the whole straight edge thing too. By that time drugs had already caused us all so much pain. It’s still rampaging full speed ahead but even back then young creative talented energetic people were dropping like flies.
^ Yep, very commendable to limit concert prices. As for straight edge, perhaps it's a worthy reaction to lethal drug abuse, but it's developed a reputation for intolerance, hasn't it? Just what the world needs, another club that allows you to feel a self-righteous contempt for everyone else.

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BUT going from Minor Threat to Fugazi is one of the greatest musical falls from grace ever. When I first heard Minor Threat it was so revolutionary. I was in high school and it was like so rock’n’roll can go there? Holy f uck!!!

This music was incredibly empowering, I mean it still is, it literally brings tears to my eyes. I know it gets old people bemoaning the past but my life was so hard back then. That sound said to me, told me there’s a ****ing place for you in this world. It was like being given a ****ing home.

By comparison Fugazi was mostly a bunch of frat rock bull****. It’s not like I felt betrayed or anything. It’s just Fugazi was bland.
^ Thank you for this insight into the young OH!

I wouldn't ask anyone to believe it, in fact I hardly believe it myself, but I also had some years of undirected rage, listening to Beefheart at high volume and having a more emotional response to music than I do today. So even if I no longer feel the rage, I can respect the rage in those Minor Threat songs. The way the music stops for the F-word accusations in In My Eyes is particularly effective.
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You gotta respect Ian MacKaye and his stick to your guns DIY $5 tickets no giving in to ticket master punk ethics. I totally respect the whole straight edge thing too. By that time drugs had already caused us all so much pain. Itís still rampaging full speed ahead but even back then young creative talented energetic people were dropping like flies.
I like him so much that every Dischord Records record I've got (except for 13 Songs) I bought directly from their website.

And what's even cooler about it is that every record was packaged together with a hand note by Amy Farina thanking for buying it. I wouldn't trade that for a meeting and a photo with Billy Corgan or Mark Lanegan (just to cite two alternative rock stars I like)
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Yep, very commendable to limit concert prices. As for straight edge, perhaps it's a worthy reaction to lethal drug abuse, but it's developed a reputation for intolerance, hasn't it? Just what the world needs, another club that allows you to feel a self-righteous contempt for everyone else.
Idk - this is anecdotal from straight edge people I actually talked to - Iíve read that it was like that but I never saw it like that. Itís not like they were talking about legislation. They were about having their own subculture on their own terms. Avoiding drugs has caused a lot less misery than taking drugs.
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I like him so much that every Dischord Records record I've got (except for 13 Songs) I bought directly from their website.

And what's even cooler about it is that every record was packaged together with a hand note by Amy Farina thanking for buying it. I wouldn't trade that for a meeting and a photo with Billy Corgan or Mark Lanegan (just to cite two alternative rock stars I like)
^ Is that the same Amy who is the wife of Ian McKay? That's cool.

( Yeah, I really know nothing about straight edge, and of course attempts to reduce the misery of addiction have gotta be good)
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Song #3: Pixies - Monkey Gone to Heaven (1989)



Thanks to the enthusiasm of Black Francis, I'd at least heard of The Pixies before, though this song didn't sound much like the material I remember him recommending. TBH I found this song a bit disappointing: a vocalist who's spent too long studying in the Lou Reed School of Cool, and although there is some biting guitar work going on, pretty soon the song just repeats, repeats and stops without having gone anywhere. It sounds to me like, just 4 mins in, The Pixies have completely run out of ideas and direction - and yet this was apparently a college radio hit, so perhaps it grows on you after a few listens.

(MB user name Black Francis comes from The Pixies band member. Duh.)
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Lisna: *groan* Sounds like somebody spent a little too much time at the Massachusetts Institution of (adds sarcastic tone) Technology.
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^ Is that the same Amy who is the wife of Ian McKay? That's cool.
Yes, and the drummer of their duo, The Evens.
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any song on Surfer Rosa or Come on Pilgrim is so much more exciting than Doolittle
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any song on Surfer Rosa or Come on Pilgrim is so much more exciting than Doolittle
Or just of Surfer Rosa once its CD includes the all the Come On Pilgrim tracks.
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