I read it, but i dont see what this has to do with my request, prog has a history of its own, i dont see any other genre you could link it with. paring it with alternative rock would definitely not be a great idea, those are 2 very different genres with extreamly different principles and styles.

So what are you suggesting?

Boo boo....

you argue convincingly and I myself would love to see prog recognition, so we'll see what the mods say. Just for great argument, I hope you get it.

Thanks.

It was just a referance to that post I quoted, where you said teaching was of the utmost importance. I wasn't specifically meaning prog. I guess it was slightly off topic...

Oh, so do you support me on this? :)

Yes and kinda no. Yes because of the same reason theres an emo and hardcore section. And I like prog.

No because, well, it seems semi trivial. I mean, theres a reason prog has rock attached to the end of it's title.

I'll support it...

And pop punk has punk in its name, not the best example. ;)

Believe me, prog is probably the most "non rock" rock genre there is.

But more often than not would you call it rock?

well, not rock, but with rock as its primary element.

Well rock is not always the primary element, it depends on the band and the sub-genre. A lot of prog, mainly Symphonic Prog used classical music style structure, melody, rhythm and composition, but by using modern instruments instead of symphony orchestras, basicly classical music with rock instruments. Though some prog bands have more complex ensembles, King Crimson for example. Artists like ELP and Frank Zappa did versions of classical music pieces very often. Other styles of rock have more jazz influences, Gong, Soft Machine and Magma are examples of prog bands with heavy jazz leanings. Some styles of prog incorperate english folk influences, such as Jethro Tull, The Strawbs and Renaissance and some prog bands incorperate eastern influences into their music, bands like Quintessence.

So in short, prog is a style of rock that may or may not consider rock its primary element, because it tends to blend many genres, jazz and classical more than others. Its basicly a style of music that blends rock with more innovative ideals that stretch beyond just rock music. So if prog is really a sub-genre to rock, it is probably a sub genre to jazz and classical too. I think prog is just too unique and dificult to define to be put into the same catagory as other rock genres, i really believe its in a category of its own.

I can't debate anymore, I'm still trying to argue with my eyes to stay open.

I feel you have a very solid point boo boo, so yeah. good luck.