Should there be a prog forum on musicbanter? (Read First!)
 

Call me biased, i am a prog fan, but i do think that if this forums intent is to cover all types of music and get kids into other styles of music they havent heard before, making a prog forum would be a good start. I dont think it would hurt to educate posters here about progressive rock, which is one of the most misunderstood genres of rock. You may say prog isnt popular enough, but hell, isnt that good enough a reason to make a prog forum? To teach others about less popular genres of music? I dont see prog being any less popular or "un-hip" with kids nowadays than say classical music. Its certainly a credible genre, more than pop for sure...Prog isnt dead, its no where as popular as it was in the 70s, but it still has a very loyal following of fans from around the world, there are still many active prog movements in many different countrys, including the US, Canada, UK, France, Italy, Japan, Germany and Sweden...It would be a big step for this forum in expanding tastes and being a much more diverse site for music dicussion. You could get kids into new music and attract new forum members in the process. Prog is a very special genre in rock, and it has just as many sub-genres as metal and punk if not more. Many bands today incorperate prog elements in their music, like Sigur Ros, Mars Volta, Arcade Fire, Coheed and Cambria, Muse and many others. The reason i make this a issue is because if someone wants to make a prog related thread, they should have a proper place to put it. I was gonna make a Yes appreciation thread once, but i didnt know where to put it, weither to post it on the general music forum or the rock and metal forum, either way it would have felt too out of place, so that had me thinking. Sure you could say that prog is a part of rock so prog threads should just be posted on the rock and metal forum, but punk is a part of rock too, and it has its own forum, indie rock has its own forum. Why should they get their own forums and not prog?

I think no sorry boo boo you know i like you and all but i see it being a dead forum that would get lots of posts/threads in the first month then just die out due to lack of interest.

But if it was done (i personally think) you should be mod of it and keep it clean tidy and perfect.

I think you're point is a little mis-aimed...if you will, boo boo....this board, I think, isn't to educate people about music, it's for already music-educated people to talk about their favorite music, and such....

Amen to that........its beautifull to my ears......I think a prog forum would be awsome to have....And ill say right now one of the things that i love about prog..is when bands make concept albums.......They're amazing...Symphony X - The Oddysey one of my favs........but yes to keep to the topic yes i truly think that There should be a forum for progressive music

Im refering to BooBoo's writing in my post ^^

Dude most people love to be educated in music....without that we'd all be listening to the same ****

Not really, if that was the case, you could just start a freaking chat room and save bandwidth. This isnt my first forum, and others have said it themselves, forums like the indie rock forum are there to educate kids about less popular forms of music, how is what im trying to do any different?

That's a good point. I lie defeated. heh.

I think your totally wrong thats just down right eltism.If forums were like that i would still be listening to only the misfits and that'd be a tragedy people need educated more then educated people need to dicuss.


EDIT: beat me to it boo boo

Exactly my thoughts

You see?.... Thats exactly what im talking about, educating others should be a top priority, and whos to say the forum wont be very popular or not? The less people know about something, the more they may become interested in it.

Like I said above to LesPaul, that's a good point.

Yeah but you can just make an official prog rock thread and have it stickied and it would do just as good on that subject.

Yeah but with a forum you can have more topics than just an open Prog Rock

Well, i would just like to see prog get a fair rep here, i think it deserves more than just one thread. If punk gets its own forum, then prog should too IMO. It may not equal other genres in impact, but i think it does in influence.


NO MORE PROG DISCRIMINATION!

Bingo.

Wow....BooBoo and I are Agreeing O_o.........that doesnt happen everyday..and yes if this forum is created....BooBoo for MOD

Punk has its own belief,fashion,lifestyle and a huge huge huge music following its way bigger then prog theirs a diffrence a big one punk even has its own indiviual sub genres.

That all may be true........none the less.............Prog needs its own forum.......and lets say whether you want it or not......if we get it.is it going to bother you..or affect you in any way?

No it wont be we dont need to be adding forums for every little thing.

No offense to either of you but this forum will only have a few posters lets face it not to many people care for prog rock (i dont and have no interest too) its just not gonna be active.

But seriously whats wrong with another forum

AND PROG DOSENT?... I pity a fool who dares to put Symphonic Prog, Space Rock, Progressive Metal, Kraut Rock, Prog Folk, RIO/Avant Prog, Canterbury, Post Rock, Neo Prog, Indo Prog, Itailian Prog, Fusion, Art Rock and Zeuhl into the same catagory.

And the punk movement may be bigger than prog, but not by much, the prog movement is huge, just because the media is too full of itself to cover it dosent change anything.

We should let fate (and the poll) decide, i think it could work, i think if people are open minded enough, they will be interested...It will get more attention than the classical music and electronica forums, i can assure you that.

Man BooBoo you've got Mutha effin skills

Indeed. :pimp:

couldnt prog come under alternative?

Uh..... No, its completely its own genre.

Good call mr pastor.

Exactly why we should have a history thread!!!!!!!!!

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If we were to have a prog section then we may as well create a Death Metal section too, and so on.

Only prog isnt just a sub genre, it has many of its own sub genres, and unlike death metal, it has been a massively influencial genre for the the past 30 years...You guys already have one for emo, what impact does emo have?, very little compared to prog. Its just popular.

I read it, but i dont see what this has to do with my request, prog has a history of its own, i dont see any other genre you could link it with. paring it with alternative rock would definitely not be a great idea, those are 2 very different genres with extreamly different principles and styles.

So what are you suggesting?

Boo boo....

you argue convincingly and I myself would love to see prog recognition, so we'll see what the mods say. Just for great argument, I hope you get it.

Thanks.

It was just a referance to that post I quoted, where you said teaching was of the utmost importance. I wasn't specifically meaning prog. I guess it was slightly off topic...

Oh, so do you support me on this? :)

Yes and kinda no. Yes because of the same reason theres an emo and hardcore section. And I like prog.

No because, well, it seems semi trivial. I mean, theres a reason prog has rock attached to the end of it's title.

I'll support it...

And pop punk has punk in its name, not the best example. ;)

Believe me, prog is probably the most "non rock" rock genre there is.

But more often than not would you call it rock?

well, not rock, but with rock as its primary element.

Well rock is not always the primary element, it depends on the band and the sub-genre. A lot of prog, mainly Symphonic Prog used classical music style structure, melody, rhythm and composition, but by using modern instruments instead of symphony orchestras, basicly classical music with rock instruments. Though some prog bands have more complex ensembles, King Crimson for example. Artists like ELP and Frank Zappa did versions of classical music pieces very often. Other styles of rock have more jazz influences, Gong, Soft Machine and Magma are examples of prog bands with heavy jazz leanings. Some styles of prog incorperate english folk influences, such as Jethro Tull, The Strawbs and Renaissance and some prog bands incorperate eastern influences into their music, bands like Quintessence.

So in short, prog is a style of rock that may or may not consider rock its primary element, because it tends to blend many genres, jazz and classical more than others. Its basicly a style of music that blends rock with more innovative ideals that stretch beyond just rock music. So if prog is really a sub-genre to rock, it is probably a sub genre to jazz and classical too. I think prog is just too unique and dificult to define to be put into the same catagory as other rock genres, i really believe its in a category of its own.

I can't debate anymore, I'm still trying to argue with my eyes to stay open.

I feel you have a very solid point boo boo, so yeah. good luck.