Clapton, Beck, Page vs Hendrix, Gibbons, Vaughn

**Janszoon** · 10-14-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ

A 4 minute solo is just masturbation...? That means 50% of most blues players are just masturbating day in and day out.

I'm not categorically saying all solos are masturbatory, I'm specifically talking about Eric Clapton.

almauro · 10-14-2010, 04:24 PM

^Many decades ago, Clapton was considered THE BLUES SOLOIST, so when you knock him, many people are going to believe your criticizing all soloists. Personally, I like "I Shot the Sheriff" and dig the groovy soulful style, and on hindsight, see it as another variation for EC's style. I think, back in 74' he would have been instrumental in helping Bob Marley breakout big in the US, which was a good thing.

**Janszoon** · 10-14-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by almauro

^Many decades ago, Clapton was considered THE BLUES SOLOIST, so when you knock him, many people are going to believe your criticizing all soloists.

Well that would certainly be a lot to infer from my comments that's for sure.

Dr_Rez · 10-14-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I'm not categorically saying all solos are masturbatory, I'm specifically talking about Eric Clapton.

Fair enough. You must hate B.B. King.

**Janszoon** · 10-14-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ

Fair enough. You must hate B.B. King.

I'm kind of ambivalent about him.

IriSh_eXiT · 10-16-2010, 01:23 AM

Having seen them all live 'cept Hendrix.

Natural talent should shake down like this.

Stevie Ray Vaughn
Jimi Hendrix
Jimmy Page
Jeff Beck
Eric Clapton
Billy Gibbons.

ymmv

cheers

Jedey · 10-16-2010, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I'm not categorically saying all solos are masturbatory, I'm specifically talking about Eric Clapton.

That's how I feel about David Gilmour.

clutnuckle · 10-16-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

i'm not going to bother with a song by song comparison when it's pretty much everything i've ever heard post-Cream.

he's boring because he's just connecting the dots, he's not digging deep, he's not going out there. he's making faces and playing the (at this point) very boring and very tired style he used to set ablaze when Baker and Bruce were his cohorts.

making a face like you're taking a realllllly long dump and liking it != blues greatness.

Key points on why I hate Clapton. He has to be the whitest man to ever desecrate the sanctity of blues music.

I suppose I'd pick Beck for UK, mainly because I've seen him play live and he's still playing very profoundly. And Hendrix for US, because I frankly couldn't care less whom I pick out of those 3...

Jguitar2010 · 11-15-2010, 10:17 AM

Id choose Paul Kossoff! haha though I change my mind all the time, absoloutley love early Clapton particularily his work with Cream while I prefer Becks later stuff, however I would probaly consider Jimmy page the best songwriter out of all of them

Fatt Matt · 11-15-2010, 12:48 PM

Jimi Hendrix ftw

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almauro Way Out There Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 850	^Many decades ago, Clapton was considered THE BLUES SOLOIST, so when you knock him, many people are going to believe your criticizing all soloists. Personally, I like "I Shot the Sheriff" and dig the groovy soulful style, and on hindsight, see it as another variation for EC's style. I think, back in 74' he would have been instrumental in helping Bob Marley breakout big in the US, which was a good thing. __________________ rock n music blog

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Fatt Matt Groupie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Montgomery, Alabama Posts: 48	Jimi Hendrix ftw __________________ Fatt Matt Remember That “One good thing about music, when it hits- you feel no pain” - Bob Marley

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IriSh_eXiT Groupie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1	Having seen them all live 'cept Hendrix. Natural talent should shake down like this. Stevie Ray Vaughn Jimi Hendrix Jimmy Page Jeff Beck Eric Clapton Billy Gibbons. ymmv cheers

11-15-2010, 10:17 AM	#69 (permalink)
Jguitar2010 Groupie Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 5	Id choose Paul Kossoff! haha though I change my mind all the time, absoloutley love early Clapton particularily his work with Cream while I prefer Becks later stuff, however I would probaly consider Jimmy page the best songwriter out of all of them