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Terrapin_Station 09-01-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1738788)
I never said this.

I wasn't quoting you there. The quotation marks are a convention to set off an example proposition we're talking about.

Key 09-01-2016 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station (Post 1738789)
I wasn't quoting you there. The quotation marks are a convention to set off an example proposition we're talking about.

Than that negates your entire argument where you think i'm stating facts, when one of your examples was that of something I never said, hence you denying you believing I'm stating anything factual.

Frownland 09-01-2016 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station (Post 1738789)
I wasn't quoting you there. The quotation marks are a convention to set off an example proposition we're talking about.

Wait, is this an opinion or is it a fact? You need to clarify.

Terrapin_Station 09-01-2016 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1738790)
Than that negates your entire argument where you think i'm stating facts, when one of your examples was that of something I never said, hence you denying you believing I'm stating anything factual.

Again, some of your statements would make zero semantic sense if you didn't believe that there were facts about what counts as good or bad guitar playing, at least to some extent--including that you literally said things like, "Not everything (about assessing guitar playing) is open to interpretation."

Terrapin_Station 09-01-2016 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1738791)
Wait, is this an opinion or is it a fact? You need to clarify.

Each sentence there (the extension of each sentence, that is) is a fact. ;-)

Chula Vista 09-01-2016 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1738760)
If I had the opportunity to do as many takes as Page did, I'd be able to do pretty much anything.

I'm with Ki: while he's pretty ****ing good, calling Page one of the greatest either means that you grew up with his dick in your mouth or you're ignorant of most other guitarists. I'm down with calling Bonham one of the greatest though. He drove the band more than Page did, imo.

It's well known and been validated by the engineer who was in the studio that Page improvised 3 different solos on the spot and then chose the best one for the album.

Agreed on Bonham. If you notice on Zep live clips, whenever it was time for Page to take a solo he'd move right in front of Bonham's kick drum so he could play off of it.

Frownland 09-01-2016 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station (Post 1738797)
Each sentence there is a fact. ;-)

Now is this a fact or an opinion?`

Frownland 09-01-2016 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1738799)
It's well known and been validated by the engineer who was in the studio that Page improvised 3 different solos on the spot and then chose the best one for the album.

That's two more takes than I've ever done.

Key 09-01-2016 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station (Post 1738796)
Again, some of your statements would make zero semantic sense if you didn't believe that there were facts about what counts as good or bad guitar playing, at least to some extent--including that you literally said things like, "Not everything (about assessing guitar playing) is open to interpretation."

There are facts about what makes a good or bad guitar player, which helps me form my opinion about Jimmy Page which again...has been my entire point this whole time.

Terrapin_Station 09-01-2016 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1738800)
Now is this a fact or an opinion?`

Fact.

Next question?


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