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View Poll Results: Tony Iommi or Jimmy Page?
Tony Iommi 50 40.98%
Jimmy Page 72 59.02%
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Old 09-01-2016, 01:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Because in the grand scheme of things, it's all based on how you perceive those facts into your own opinion. There are facts that you have to follow to be a good/great guitar player i.e. guitar lessons, perfecting your craft, etc. Many guitarists are above the caliber that Jimmy Page sits at. Not everybody is going to see the facts the same way when it comes to playing guitar, because everyone has a different perspective of what they believe is considered a good or bad guitar player.
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Some of my favourite guitarists sound like they've never played a guitar before in their life to the untrained ear.
What you're describing is standardization, and that doesn't mean much in the way of whether or not it's a good system to be based off of. The lessons bit is a bit of a strawman, because if I started teaching kids how to play prepared guitar, which I'm excellent at and have a very deep understanding of what can make a great prepared guitar player, their parents would fire me because their kid didn't learn how to play Mary Had a Little Lamb.

So what you're calling facts in this post...are opinions.
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Old 09-01-2016, 01:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What you're describing is standardization, and that doesn't mean much in the way of whether or not it's a good system to be based off of. The lessons bit is a bit of a strawman, because if I started teaching kids how to play prepared guitar, which I'm excellent at and have a very deep understanding of what can make a great prepared guitar player, their parents would fire me because their kid didn't learn how to play Mary Had a Little Lamb.

So what you're calling facts in this post...are opinions.
Elliott Sharp taught prepared guitar techniques to some students, by the way (a good friend of mine was one of those students), but yeah, not to little kids. (Re Elliott Sharp, I'm pretty sure we talked about that a long time ago--shortly after I first joined the site, I think. I wound up telling you a couple people I'd played with, which I usually don't do online.)
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